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    Songwriting Notebooks

    I know we're more Classically oriented, here, but I thought there might be some interest in this.

    I've looked around a bit lately for a spiral notebook with music paper on one side and regular lined paper on the other, specifically to use for songwriting. Unable to find anything, I gave up.

    Then I said to myself, "Self, in this day and age, can't you just make what you need?"

    Sure enough, I made a design and put it up on Lulu.com. I made three different sizes -26 pages, 50 pages and 100 pages. I think they're reasonable priced for what you get.

    Please take a look at them, and if anyone has any recommendations to make them better, by all means speak up. I can edit and re-upload the files.

    Songwriter's Notebook - Mini
    Songwriter's Notebook - Standard

    Songwriter's Notebook - Jumbo


    Thanks, Rob

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    Re: Songwriting Notebooks

    Hi Rob. I believe you can benefit visiting this page:

    http://www.blanksheetmusic.net

    It´s a cool site to get paper the way you need almost instantly (if you have a printer) and they have stats about the most used kinds of papers you can found usefull here:

    http://www.blanksheetmusic.net/staff_paper.asp
    Marcelo Colina

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    Re: Songwriting Notebooks

    I remember spending thousands of dollars buying music paper through the years. I'm not sure how many of those great paper companies are still around. But notation programs have completely changed that. I usually just write at the computer. And if I need music paper, I can make it myself to my custom specifications. It's a different world out there today.

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    Same here. I used to order Aztec part paper by the truckload. Well not really - but alot! It was from Associated Music Copy Service in NYC. Those were the days! I still have my copyist's callus on my right hand middle finger! My hand thanks me every time I hit the "print" button now!

    Hey Raweber - Beethoven carried just such a notebook on his walks. So it's not just a songwriting/pop music thing! I have tried that and it didn't work for me. Also I've tried small personal voice recorders and even ancient PDA software. Now I just try to use my memory and a plain sheet of paper and a pencil. That suffices for me until I get back home.

    Best of luck with your notations!
    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Turner View Post
    I remember spending thousands of dollars buying music paper through the years. I'm not sure how many of those great paper companies are still around. But notation programs have completely changed that. I usually just write at the computer. And if I need music paper, I can make it myself to my custom specifications. It's a different world out there today.
    Same here only Judy Green paper. I think I still have some laying around somewhere in fact. I compose at the computer now as well and like you Jeff, on the rare occasion I need to write something with pencil and paper I simply print a blank sheet from Finale.

    I have thought about carrying around some sort of "Beethoven-esque" notebook myself for those times inspiration hits when I'm away from a computer or keyboard. This thread has got me thinking about that again.

    Steve Winkler

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    Re: Songwriting Notebooks

    Well, I wanted something bound, so I couldn't just print it out and go. I don't write at home a lot - songs, that is. Instrumental stuff is almost always at the piano or computer, but for lyrical songwriting I'll do it at the park, at church in the fellowship hall, at work in the truck watching the laborers strip sidewalk forms, etc.

    Hopefully someone will find this useful.

    Thanks, Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinkler View Post
    Same here only Judy Green paper.
    I remember that stuff. I have a bunch of scores I did with that down in the basement here. Ah...the memories...of hand cramps and lots of ink from my Osmiroid pen....
    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

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    Re: Songwriting Notebooks

    Hey Chip,

    I've got the same callus on my right middle finger. But mine was from a Pelikan pen, not the Osmiroid. Real men used the Pelikan. LOL

    Steve, I remember ordering a lot from Judy Green. She had a great catalog. My favorite was Valle Music Paper. But it was the most expensive, so I only used it for the real important charts.

    Did you ever use onion skin paper with an electric eraser? Those ammonia smell from that machine would almost make you pass out. And all the spilled ink, when I was refilling my pen at 4 AM. But that pen and paper put a roof over my head and food on the table.

    I still look back at those as the "Good Ol' Days'.

    I must be getting old.

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    This looks interesting Rob, as I was very recently hunting for such a book. I ended up getting a modelskine large music notebook: http://www.moleskineus.com/mbl01-mol...-notebook.html. Like your songbooks, these feature musical staff on alternating pages, but the other page is blank. I usually prefer blank to lined as I can also sketch in it.

    For straight writing in the notebook, rather than having lined paper I downloaded a writing template here: http://rodgraves.com/moleskine/ . This can also be used as a notebook, and overall the system works great (Moleskines are expensive, but I love the paper and the durability).

    However, your creation using a spiral notebook songbook has the distinct advantage of being able to flip over the page to have it take up less space. As I'm used to working in coil bounded books, not being able to fold a notebook in half can really get annoying.

    Cheers,
    Tim
    "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." – Henry Thoreau


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    Re: Songwriting Notebooks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Turner View Post
    Hey Chip,

    I've got the same callus on my right middle finger. But mine was from a Pelikan pen, not the Osmiroid. Real men used the Pelikan. LOL

    Steve, I remember ordering a lot from Judy Green. She had a great catalog. My favorite was Valle Music Paper. But it was the most expensive, so I only used it for the real important charts.

    Did you ever use onion skin paper with an electric eraser? Those ammonia smell from that machine would almost make you pass out. And all the spilled ink, when I was refilling my pen at 4 AM. But that pen and paper put a roof over my head and food on the table.

    I still look back at those as the "Good Ol' Days'.

    I must be getting old.
    Well, Jeff, I *AM* old. And left-handed. Therefore, my left middle finger bears the callus, and the right middle finger is reserved for other uses. It was hard to find a left-handed pen of any kind, and learning to avoid getting ink stains on the side of my left hand was a major accomplishment.

    My pens/pencils and electric eraser lasted (packed in a cardboard box) until they were sacrificed to the flood that destroyed my basement two years ago.

    Not exactly a living for me as it is for you, but paid for much Guinness thanks to procrastinating composers/arrangers at the Indiana U. music school.

    Does anyone know what I mean by "K780"???
    Jim W.

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