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  1. #31

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Hello William!

    Quote Originally Posted by wrayer View Post
    I love this. Bravo my friend.
    Thanks, Bill... I thought you might take a liking to this.

    I just watched the movie, "The Red Violin" and this piece would be perfect for that movie. The sadness and dispair of that gorgeous violin are evident. This has to be the strad. It pulls at the heart string and drowns one in to it's mournful web of sadness and dispair. If these were not the emotions you wanted, maybe it's the snow outside I am feeling them from. In any case, this piece is introspective and beautiful in it's dispair. I love that last mournful note (on an open string, no vibrato, and I assume it was the E string).
    In general, yes (your notes on the emotive content).
    There's an odd mix of feelings in this piece -- very hard
    to put into words... regret, hope, despair, affection,
    sadness and others, all combined. But then, if it could be
    said in words, who'd need the music, right?

    Applause, Applause, Applause Maestro!

    Bill
    Ah, you'll make me blush, Bill... lol! This is about as close
    as I come to writing a pop song, a small effort; so I find
    it difficult to accept too much applause on this one!

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  2. #32

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux View Post
    if it could be
    said in words, who'd need the music, right?
    That's why we write, no truer words have been stated about music.

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux View Post
    This is about as close as I come to writing a pop song
    Now, there's always room for tonal harmony in music, things can be tonal too and in this framework, your 'pop tune' fits well, very well indeed.

    Thanks for sharing this 'Beauty' with us.

    Bill
    We dream to write and we write to dream.

    Challenge #10 Winner

  3. #33

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Hi Steve,

    Quote Originally Posted by swinkler View Post
    Beautiful simplicity David. I'd love to see the score, but I think again you've masterfully made the most out of a small amount of material.
    Thank you, my friend. I've been doing a lot of
    thinking lately on the matter of complexity.

    While most everything I do is based on very
    minimal raw materials, there's certainly room for
    pieces like this in the style that do not so
    fullsomely and aggressively develop them... lol.

    The score is now posted, of course.

    I like how the harmonic language weaves back and forth between more traditional harmonies and progressions and what sound like poly-tonalities. Great work as always! Thanks for sharing.

    With admiration,
    Steve Winkler
    Even in a little piece like this, almost chorale-like
    if you look at the backing strings, I don't really
    "think" in chords. It's all line. When I look at a
    the page, I don't see a "chord". I see a group of
    notes; and each of those notes has a tendency,
    a direction in which it wants to go -- a line that
    is natural to it. It is from that that the "harmony"
    arises.

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  4. #34

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Hello Raymond,

    Thank you for listening, my friend, and for the
    very kind comment.


    Quote Originally Posted by Notecracker View Post
    Good heavens, this is beautiful. Wonderful chords you are using. Lots of m7+9's and more of this kind - hoping hearing it right. (minor chords are wonderful stuff aren't they!). In fact it is too short, I must play it again.

    Raymond
    As I mentioned in the above post to Steve, the
    "harmony" comes forth from line... so I can't say
    I've ever thought about it in terms of chords... lol!

    It'd be interesting, I think, to have someone with
    an unbiased theoretical ear analyze the "progressions".

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  5. #35

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaques View Post
    Dear David,

    master writing with some really nice shapes here. I remember Claus Ogerman and Jeremy Lubbock by listening. Very nice!! I like very much these broad feligran string textures with such very nice harmonies in it. What library is this? Is there a pdf score available?

    Really nice !

    All my best.
    JL
    Thank you for listening, Jaques -- and for the kind
    words.

    The pdf score is now posted on the site.

    The backing string orchestra is Garritan GPO
    (lush mutes); the solo violin is Garritan Strad.

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  6. #36

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Quote Originally Posted by fastlane View Post
    I think the title fits this piece perfectly.

    Just wonderful string work here.
    Thanks much, my friend.

    The Strad does just by it's nature stick out of the mix a little but I think it still works fine. You have to use what you have at hand.
    Yes, I agree; and I've talked about that earlier, too,
    Phil. As I got into it more and more, I quickly learned
    that getting a solo violin to mix well with a string
    orchestra (I'm talking about rendering, now, not real
    ensembles) is darned tricky. The slightest bit too
    soft and it gets buried; the slightest bit hot and it
    pops right out of the mix.

    Mixing something like this better than I got it here
    is beyond my skills -- though I'm sure someone like
    our Dan Kury could get it right.


    Beautiful and I also feel a certain sadness here.

    It all flows so naturally.

    What a treat to hear another piece by you so soon.

    Phil
    Writing's one of those difficult habits to break,
    Phil... lol.

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  7. #37

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Hauntingly beautiful, David!


    Really enjoyed this somber arrangement.

    A subtle portrait of longing, sorrow and even moments of despair.
    As mentioned, It too reminded me of John Corigliano's The Red Violin.


    The Strad work was terrific.. btw!


    Bravo, My friend



    Jeff

  8. #38

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    David, i listened to this a while ago and could not comment at the time, but I must say I like it better the more I listen to it. 4 times now! Love the lush orchestral stuff in the background and the numerous changes - bit of a departure for you I must say but it still has that Sosnowski thing to it. Very haunting, moody and mysterious! Almost cinematic or would go great with a similar feeling drama.

    I know how much time you spent on mixing this (I am also another frustrated noobie classical mixer who needs to spend more (not less) time perfecting and learning that mixing part of my music) but I would suggest "less" something on the STrad. (whether that being reverb, volume or EQ - don't know without trying it) The non-strad instruments I thought were perfectly mixed by the way!

    Lately, I have been experimenting with a technique where I try to fatten up the Strad sound by doubling the frozen Strad "audio" track, (make a copy and pan them to opposite sides (3/4's-not extreme left of right though) Boost(EQ) the lower and mid range-& cut the 2-4K range a bit, then leave the other track alone to provide the definition. As with all things, one must play with the volume (balance) and EQ of the two tracks to get the desired effect. Give them both different reverb as if I was recording with 2 mikes in 2 different places - one close and one back. This tends to work better when only a few instruments are used in the mix but would tend to get lost the more instruments you have. I have heard that recording engineers even try to fill out a "real violin" as they tend to come off too thin as well. I find myself wishing I could spend just a while with a real seasoned recording engineer and just soak it all in.

    Thanks for sharing this loverly piece!
    Almost forgot - a very apt name you came up with! Half the fun, right?

    - Del
    Music happens to be an art form that transcends language. - Herbie Hancock

    http://www.mdtcommunications.com

  9. #39

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrik View Post
    Like celestial white, this surely contains all the spectrum of emotional colours!

    Unresolved chords vanish like souls vanish into the unknown!
    Only to begin a new life and re-incarnate again...


    Fred
    An interesting impressionistic description, Fredrik!

    Thank you for listening, my friend.

    My best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

  10. #40

    Re: DAMAGED BEAUTY - Violin & String Orchestra (Sosnowski)

    Hi Randy,

    Quote Originally Posted by rbowser- View Post
    Hello, David

    The lush poignancy of your "Damaged Beauty" easily wove its special spell over me.

    An enriching experience to hear this, and one I am going to repeat in the evening when your piece's questioning, hurt but hopeful tone should go very nicely with the quieter night time hours.
    Pleased you enjoyed, my friend -- and yes, definitely,
    quiet-of-the-night music.


    Thank you once again for sharing your creations here on the Forum!

    Randy
    Thanks for listening, Randy; great to have you
    back around the forum, more!

    All my best,



    David
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    David Sosnowski
    www.DavidSosnowski.com

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