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    OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    Hey guys,

    My knowledge on this topic is rather limited, so I\'m wondering if you kind folks could shed any light that may satisfy my curiosity.

    Have there been any film scores nominated for an Oscar that were *not* associated with a film that was considered a hit - mild or huge. I.e., has the score for a film that didn\'t do well at the box office or that was considered a critical flop ever gotten an Oscar nod?

    Also, are there any scores from the past that you think were simply outstanding that didn\'t get recognition from the Academy? I assume there are a lot, but which ones stick out in your mind.

    And lastly, have any scores been nominated that were not grandiose orchestral affairs, or that were mainly electronic-based?


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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    One of the biggest Academy blunders, IMHO, was the fact that Basil Poledouris wasn\'t even nominated for Conan the Barbarian...that\'s a great score. I think Danny Elfman has only been nominated once, and the fact that everyone and his dog have copied his style at one point or another are a testament to his talents.
    First thing that comes to mind when I think of ground breaking electronic scores is Vangelis with the Chariots Of Fire soundtrack. Very ahead of its time with the synthesizer usage.

    Regards,
    Scott

    [This message has been edited by Scott Speed (edited 03-26-2002).]

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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    Oscar nominations really aren\'t about quality... just about popularity and fame... and budget

    ... but it\'s a nice multimedia spectacle :P

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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maarten Spruijt:
    Oscar nominations really aren\'t about quality... just about popularity and fame... and budget

    ... but it\'s a nice multimedia spectacle :P
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    To me, the oscar for the LOTR score was a prime example of this. Sure, Howard Shore\'s score wasn\'t bad, but it wasn\'t particularly great either. It is one of those typical \'bandwagon\' moments, where if a movie does well at the oscars, suddenly all aspects of that movie gets oscars, regardless of quality. Titanic is a good example of this.

    Ah well......

    Cheers,

    Joe

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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    Exactly...

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    I agree. While the LOTR score worked fine in the film, I hardly consider it to be outstanding. Neither do most of the composers I know. But how many of the academy voters are actually musicians? How many of them do you think actually even listened to all of the scores before voting?

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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jamieh:
    I agree. While the LOTR score worked fine in the film, I hardly consider it to be outstanding. Neither do most of the composers I know. But how many of the academy voters are actually musicians? How many of them do you think actually even listened to all of the scores before voting? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    All of the scores are nominated by film composer members of the Academy, then all (around 5,600) members vote for the winner from those nominated by the specialists.


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    I strongly disagree with the philosophy that all movie music is really about is whether it FITS the pictures or not. If that is the only thing a composer have to achieve, then I am out of here Hopefully the music adds to the film - enhances and possibly even makes it a good listening experience for the viewer. Sometimes well composed and good music can even make a movie experience better than the movie deserves. To me, Far and Away is a good example of this. Hell, even my mother who has no interest in movie music whatsoever told me that the best part was the music and the images.

    So if all the Oscars reflect is whether the music is well-FITTING or not, then I guess the LOTR score deserved the Oscar. Had it been about contribution, composition and MUSIC (yeah - music), I don\'t think LOTR would\'ve deserved the honor.

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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    Danny Elfman has only been nominated once? How heinous! I am shocked, though somehow I think I already knew that. Do you recall which score? I wouldn\'t be surprised if it was for Edward Scissorhands. (one of the greatest film scores of all time... marvelous in every way, shape and form)


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    Re: OT: Film Scores and Oscar

    Gotta agree with that Far and Away reference Simon. I can just see Williams sitting there watching the film and thinking \"man this film sucks. Maybe if I play the music really really loud, no one will notice.\"

    I came away thinking the movie wasn\'t very good, but I went right out and bought the soundtrack.

    I think that the academy usually does a decent job of nominating worthy scores. But I rarely agree with the winner.

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