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    Orchestration course and IE7

    I know that some people are having problems with seeing / playing the flash examples in the GARRITAN INTERACTIVE PRINCIPLES OF ORCHESTRATION by Rimsky-Korsakov


    The complaint generally goes something like this:


    A user has Flash Player 9 (or other version) installed on their system and everything works fine with IE6. That user then runs the IE7 update and their computer stops showing Flash content on sites like above or other Flash sites. However, if the user goes to some other sites with Flash content, the content will play just fine, even if the site requires the Flash 9 Player.


    I’m not sure of the official cause for this, and am still doing some research into what causes it, but a first guess I have is that when you upgrade from IE7, the browser install is not correctly reinstalling your existing Flash Plugin, so scripts that check for the Flash Player are failing, but since the plugin file is there, if you visit a site that does not use a detection script (like SWFObject) you will see the Flash content just fine.


    There may not be a solution to this for the sites using detection scripts - they rely on a series of Windows registry entries that seem to be missing after an IE7 upgrade.


    For users, here is a fix that worked for me:
    1. Quit all open programs. This step is important because other programs may be using the Flash Player, and if they are, the uninstaller will fail silently.
    2. Run the Adobe Flash Player Uninstaller.
    3. Reinstall your Flash player.
    4. You might want to download from here:
    5. http://www.macromedia.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_ie
    If you are still having problems after running the uninstaller and reinstalling the plugin, please post a comment with your system setup and other relevant details. (And remember, sometimes a system restart can make a difference with problems like this, so try that first).

    If the above doesn't work for you go here:

    http://weblogs.asp.net/derekh/archiv...16/422743.aspx

    Let me know how if after trying all of the above if you're still having problems.

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    Thanks for raising this. Unfortunately I tried your solution but it has't worked for me. I reported the disappearance of the score examples in the Rimsky course a while ago, and took up the suggestion of updating flash, although I knew I already had the latest version. No joy. IE7 was recently installed on my machine as part of Windows automatic updates. I think I should take the problem up with Microsoft as others must be having similar problems. Best wishes.

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    A few months ago I downloaded IE7 and installed it. I began having low memory issues when using Finale 2007 and the full GPO. I uninstalled the IE7 and it casused a multitude of problems and I had to spend 5 plus hours on the phone with Microsoft tech support unitl I was finally connected with someone who knew how to delete all the currupted files this had caused and reinstall IE6. I never had the low memory issue again.

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    Tried all this, Tony; several times; in every permutation
    I could think of; even goosed out the registry and did
    directory searches to make sure I was getting a fresh,
    clean install.

    No dice.

    I did propose a solution to this; alas, although the
    fix is very simple, it does require a fair amount of legwork.
    Try this page in IE7:

    http://www.codebrain.net/rk/

    All my best,



    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    I think David's solution may be the only viable one. That will required making htmls for all 275 examples and changing every example in every lesson. Lots of work. Any volunteers? Maybe we can devise a batch program. We'll figure something out.

    Thanks David for the solution. You really are as smart as you look .

    Gary Garritan

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    Tried all this, Tony; several times; in every permutation
    I could think of; even goosed out the registry and did
    directory searches to make sure I was getting a fresh,
    clean install.

    No dice.

    I did propose a solution to this; alas, it does require
    a fair amount of legwork. Try this page in IE7:

    http://www.codebrain.net/rk/

    All my best,



    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    Quote Originally Posted by Garritan

    Thanks David for the solution. You really are as smart as you look .

    Gary Garritan
    Gary:

    Gads! Oh no! Not that! Condemned to a life of continued
    extensive densitude... rofl.

    Batching out the html object code would be easy enough;
    the one bug in the soap is that there are different sizes
    involved... maybe Tony's genius can come up with some
    way to run 'round that one? He's the man, ya know.

    Tony:

    Apparently you have to have the swf in an html page
    with the usual object/embed code; and then iframe
    the html page into the forum, rather than iframing in
    the swf file directly.

    There is a working forum example of doing this, here:

    http://northernsounds.com/forum/show...&postcount=624

    By the way, if you want to get rid of those nuisanceful
    IE "click to activate" poppers, this'd allow for that, as well;
    in that the basal page could carry the necessary code,
    whereas the forum cannot support the circumvention
    needed. You'll note I have included this in the "demo
    fix" at the link above.

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    I'll look into this in more detail but right now I have the whole thing working in IE7 as the code stands. strange...

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    Quote Originally Posted by tmonaghan
    I'll look into this in more detail but right now I have the whole thing working in IE7 as the code stands. strange...
    No clue, me either, Tony. Checked it on
    four machines, here, all WinXPSP2, and
    all evidence the problem... as do those
    of various visitors.

    Three of the machines here are about as
    plain-jane as it gets, too; and there are
    numerous reports of it elsewhere.

    I should note that this is not peculiar to
    the forum players. I've seen it in quite a
    few other cases where the .swf was directly
    linked.

    The only sensible explanation I've read is
    that it is, purportedly a "security improvement"
    in IE7; and that an "unhoused" (directly linked)
    swf is unable to find its own domain, and
    hence, in cases like the players, cannot stream.

    Go figure.

    Best,

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

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    Re: Orchestration course and IE7

    Can't you just switch to FireFox or Opera? They're free.
    Wheat Williams
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Music Copyist in Sibelius
    Apple MacBook Pro, Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
    Apple Certified Support Professional. I also work with Windows.

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