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    New Piece

    Hi all,

    I just posted a new piece on Acid Planet, called 'String Ensemble'. It can be found at:
    http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=872101&t=9459
    if anyone cares to take a listen.

    It was written for violins, violas, celli and Db. bass. I was basically working on blending in this piece. I don't know how well I succeeded, but I spent a long time just on that. I still haven't managed to figure everything out with the program, but it's good exercise, because I keep discovering new things. Maybe some day, I'll even be able to compose!!!

    As always, you guys are a real treat. It never ceases to amaze me, what I hear on these forums!

    Char.

  2. #2

    Re: New Piece

    Very nice work, Mezzo!

    There's some really interesting harmonies here!

    My only critique is the Bass/Cello section sounds a bit muffled. Either too much reverb, or perhaps a bit low in volume.. It could be interesting to bring this area forward at times.

    Well done!

    ~Jeff

  3. #3

    Re: New Piece

    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks.

    I agree with you. In spite of working on just the blending aspects, for 3 days, basically experamenting, I still wasn't happy with that aspect of it. That's one of a few things, I guess I just haven't figured out how to do yet. I am always looking for ways to bring out certain instruments, at certain times. I've used different instruments at different times, number of instruments and dynamics, and had some luck, but not what I'd like. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

    Char.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsp2
    Very nice work, Mezzo!

    There's some really interesting harmonies here!

    My only critique is the Bass/Cello section sounds a bit muffled. Either too much reverb, or perhaps a bit low in volume.. It could be interesting to bring this area forward at times.

    Well done!

    ~Jeff

  4. #4

    Re: New Piece

    Interesting writing in this, Char.; but the rendering
    does seem to be working against you somewhat.

    To me, it sounds like too much pre-delay in the reverb,
    perhaps (wild guess)... that's mushing down the very
    necessary articulations at the beginnings of notes.

    Try starting dry, then very, very slowly adding in wet.
    String ensembles can be tricky and sensitive with reverb,
    more than one might expect.

    Best,

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  5. #5

    Re: New Piece

    Hi David,

    I've been talking on the support forum, because it seems that I have some sort of conflict or something going on, between the volume in the notation software and the player, that causes me to not be able to adjust the wet/dry mix as I should be able to. I get a lot of distortion, because the player volumes are always up too high. Even if I set them lower, they constantly revert. I'm still working on it. I don't know if that's what you're referring to. My predelay is always set pretty low. Maybe even that isn't even where it should be, but I have always had to lower the volume on the sound card itself, to not blast my ears out. Then couldn't use the wet/dry mix. Could that be causing what you're talking about?

    Char.

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    Interesting writing in this, Char.; but the rendering
    does seem to be working against you somewhat.

    To me, it sounds like too much pre-delay in the reverb,
    perhaps (wild guess)... that's mushing down the very
    necessary articulations at the beginnings of notes.

    Try starting dry, then very, very slowly adding in wet.
    String ensembles can be tricky and sensitive with reverb,
    more than one might expect.

    Best,

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  6. #6

    Re: New Piece

    Yes, sure could be, Char -- almost definitely is. May
    I hope you get this quickly resolved! Given the symptoms
    you cite, about the only thing that comes to mind is
    yank everything and reinstall -- but I'm sure you've been
    told that by others. Not something I like to do myself,
    I must say.

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  7. #7

    Re: New Piece

    Hi David,

    That could just be what I'm up against. It was suggested to me, to start from scratch using just one instrument, and see what happens. I figure that would be easier to track, but if I can't figure out exactly what is going on, where, and why, I'm probably going to have to do a complete uninstall, try to clean up any remnants, and then reinstall. If it's me, I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong. My help files are missing, so maybe something didn't get installed correctly.

    Thanks.

    Char.


    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    Yes, sure could be, Char -- almost definitely is. May
    I hope you get this quickly resolved! Given the symptoms
    you cite, about the only thing that comes to mind is
    yank everything and reinstall -- but I'm sure you've been
    told that by others. Not something I like to do myself,
    I must say.

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  8. #8

    Re: New Piece

    That's the clincher -- missing files. Odds are, something
    in the install went awry. Char., I've been a programmer
    for over thirty years; and when I see this array of symptoms,
    to me? It means there may be missing files, .dll's that weren't
    properly registered (and hence cannot be communicated
    with properly), and probably missing essential system registry
    entries.

    Take it for what it's worth, but given what you tell me? I'd
    get my critical work files out of the way -- and then bite
    the bullet, rip everything involved, clean out any remaining
    trash left in the program directories; reboot; and then do a
    complete reinstall of all involved programs.

    It's a pain, I know; and of course, one would wish to know
    exactly what went wrong... but sometimes you never do.

    Even if you still have the problem(s) after the reinstall; you
    have at least eliminated one possible, and fairly common,
    cause.

    Best,

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  9. #9

    Re: New Piece

    Well, I'd say that you have a lot more on the ball than I do. I'm not a computer geek by any stretch of the imagination. I do understand some things. I'm not totally ignorant, but I'd say I'm only at an intermediate level for general things. I guess I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't doing something wrong, which I figure is always a possibility. I think I thought, that if I could figure out exactly what it was doing, then I would know whether or not, it was me. Of course, that may never happen. I will probably try this one last thing, just to see if I can glean anything. If I don't figure anything out, then I probably will copy everything to disks, and try to do a clean install. I do know that missing or corrupted files can mess up the works, so you're probably right on the money. Being a programmer for 30 years, I wouldn't question you anyway, but knowing what little I do know, I figure you're probably right. This time though, I think I'm going to disconnect from the internet, and turn off all anti virus and anti spyware, so that I know nothing is getting the way of the install.

    Thanks for your time.

    Char.


    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    That's the clincher -- missing files. Odds are, something
    in the install went awry. Char., I've been a programmer
    for over thirty years; and when I see this array of symptoms,
    to me? It means there may be missing files, .dll's that weren't
    properly registered (and hence cannot be communicated
    with properly), and probably missing essential system registry
    entries.

    Take it for what it's worth, but given what you tell me? I'd
    get my critical work files out of the way -- and then bite
    the bullet, rip everything involved, clean out any remaining
    trash left in the program directories; reboot; and then do a
    complete reinstall of all involved programs.

    It's a pain, I know; and of course, one would wish to know
    exactly what went wrong... but sometimes you never do.

    Even if you still have the problem(s) after the reinstall; you
    have at least eliminated one possible, and fairly common,
    cause.

    Best,

    David
    www.DavidSosnowski.com
    .

  10. #10

    Re: New Piece

    This is an Overture file, right?

    If you want, you can send a problem file to me hannes/at/frischat.de <- replace the /at/ with @ and I can look into it.


    Hannes
    All your strings belong to me!
    www.strings-on-demand.com

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