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    *************** dongles



    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ dongles

    Between them Altiverb's iLok and VSL's VI Syncrosoft dongles have managed to screw each up totally, to the effect that Altiverb will not work, and VI will not accept any new licences.
    www.naxosradio.com
    VSL Symphonic Cube, PLAY Gold, Project SAM, Altiverb, US2400, Cubase 4

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    Re: f******, f****** dongles

    This is one more reason why I will not purchase any software that uses dongles of any kind.

    I had one for Maya and it fouled up all my printing tasks (it was a parallel port dongle) and had one for MOTU Symphonic Instrument that would not allow the plugin to work at all and after a ton of tech support nightmares, I returned the package to Sam Ash - and that was Motu's advice - return it.

    Forget dongles - challenge response and serial numbers are fine for me.

    Mike

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    Re: f******, f****** dongles

    I think some really are more invasive than others, Lee. I've never had a problem with an iLok on a Mac, for instance, nor the MacHasp or Logic XS Key.

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    Re: f******, f****** dongles

    Am I the only person here who's had a disk crash? After what happened earlier this year, I am definitely of the opinion that if I have to have some kind of copy protection, I'll take dongles!

    OK, at the same time, I do have to admit, this new Kore dongle is a real PITA! I'm not liking the fact that you have to have the controller plugged in for Kore to work. What if I want to take a laptop on a plane and do something? Where will I put the @#$^ controller? In the next person's lap?
    Last edited by Doug Wellington; 06-02-2006 at 07:22 PM. Reason: D'oh, I can spell!

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    Re: *************** dongles

    Doug,

    I had a serious hard drive crash a while back and had to reinstall everything on my server. I was EASILY able to challenge/response everything.

    The serial numbered stuff was even easier.

    I really can't stand the hardware dongles. I use a PC by the way.

    Mike

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    Re: *************** dongles

    Well, ultimately I wish there was more honesty in the world so that we wouldn't have to put up with copy protection at all...

    Anyway, after the HD crash, I was able to reinstall some challenge-response stuff easily, but a couple things were a real pain! All of the dongle-based stuff was trivial to reinstall though - I just copied things from backup without having to go through the entire installation process over again.

    Maybe I'm just predisposed to hate challenge-response because of the original PACE stuff...

    EDIT: P.S. Yeah, I agree about the serial number stuff - that's pretty easy, but how many challenge-response packages do you have? (Sigh, I had almost 20...)

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    Re: *************** dongles

    My Sonar 5 PE is serial with authorization (which I backed up so I never need to re-authorize), I have a few NI titles, all challenge response, stylus RMX challenge/response (kind of), Cantor serial with authorization, again backed up, and a bunch of vsti instruments with serial or passwords, FL studio which is web-authorized. Most everything is some kind of password or serial key.

    Mike

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    Re: *************** dongles

    AutoTune got dongelized. So i now go without AutoTune.


    And my clients suffer because of it.



    But i still stand by my no-dongle decision, indubitably.
    Steve Hanlon, guitarist/composer
    Logic 7, PowerMac DP 2.0 (8- RAM slot model), 4GB RAM, OS 10.4.11
    UAD-1 Ultra Pak
    Lots of V.I. and sound effects
    Apogee Rosetta 200
    Great River ME-1NV
    Blue Sky Monitors

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    Re: *************** dongles

    Well, maybe that means I'll go back to using Autotune then!

    Ever use autotune on fretless bass? Have you tried Melodyne?

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    Re: *************** dongles

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    That's what I am thinking regarding dongles

    :-) Jovan
    the man with the blue guitar

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