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    Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    I am in the process of preparing Sulis for Publication. And I thought it was time I made another attempt to render this piece, using some new sounds and techniques.

    This was the first thing I did with GPO, and it was fun seeing how I tried to do it 18 months ago.
    Looking at the CC info and velocity data made me shout at the screen...."What idiot did this........ this is not how you are supposed to do it.!!!! "

    Sulis is a chamber piece for Flute, Clarinet, Harp and String Quartet.

    This is my first attempt to put the Strad through its paces. It is nice to be able to use a harsher, non-vibrato sound in places. And to forget about the machine-gun effect.(Still evident in the Viola and Cello Parts.)

    Flute. K2 .VSL Legato Flute. Flute all. and GPO FluteV
    Clarinet K2 .VSL Clarinet all. and GPO Bb solo.
    Harp GPO
    1st Violin Strad
    2nd Violin Strad
    Viola GPO
    Cello GPO

    The piece tells the story of the founding and settlement of the city of Bath.
    The 1st Harp solo represents the first trickle of water that erupted to form the sacred healing waters of Sulis. The arrival of the Celts, The Romans, the rise of the Monastery, and the revival of the Spa through to the Modern City.

    Sulis.mp3
    Sulis Score.pdf

    regards Joe

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    Hi Joe, i'm listening to your composition as i write, i really like it very much, it's full of beautiful ideas, melodies, rhythms, just wonderful... and the Strad makes a big difference...

    your friend

    Roberto

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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Thus was the story of Bath told properly...

    The Strad in this is ideal, Joe. It's got that marvelous
    edge and cut to it that's, well, Celtic, to my mind.

    But sweet when it needs to be, too.

    My compliments again on Sulis, the piece itself. (I
    especially delight in the occasional incursion of just that
    hint of Jazz sensibilities). On this latter hearing, I think
    I grasped more of the delicacy of control and pace in this
    than I did previously -- quite a hat trick holding onto it,
    well done.

    Beautiful job on this, Joe!

    With admiration,

    David
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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Quote Originally Posted by oldbob
    and the Strad makes a big difference...

    your friend

    Roberto
    Yes, Roberto, the Strad adds a lot more energy to the piece.
    I am still something of a novice, in using the Stradi, but I learned a lot in making this rendering.

    regards Joe

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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Quote Originally Posted by etLux
    The Strad in this is ideal, Joe. It's got that marvelous
    edge and cut to it that's, well, Celtic, to my mind.

    But sweet when it needs to be, too.

    David
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    Thanks David. I am quite fond of 1 movement forms, where the sections merge into one another, but pacing and dramatic flow are always a concern.

    Everyone knows that Violins are capable of the full Goulash with schmaltz on the side. But in many forms of music the violin is a very rhythmic instrument.And the Garritan Strad excels at capturing this kind of spiky intensity.
    Vibrato, its speed, intensity,delayed onset, and its absence are very significant expressive tools. It was a joy to be able to control these factors, and decide where to put them.

    It is funny how Jazz works its way into what I write.
    For example the start of the String quartet section,(@ 6.53) though meant to represent the Middle Ages and the rise of the Monasteries, is actually a kind of blues. Perhaps a tad more Bartok than Bessie Smith, but the shape, repeated phrase a minor 3rd higher etc.

    I spent years trying to avoid my Jazzy proclivities. But in the end I realised resistance is futile. Better to make a virtue of a necessity.

    regards Joe

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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Joe,
    Just had a listen to the "New and Improved" Sulis. It has sprung to life. I am quite fond of this piece and now it really sings. There were many moments when I thought I was listening to a live performance. BTW, great 'verb on this. Bravo!
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    Wow, what a fantastic piece. I hear hints of John Adams-esque postminimalism, especially in the well-implemented repeated figures; but it's definitely a style all its own. I love the climax toward the end and the keep-you-guessing final cadence. Congratulations!

    The only thing I wonder about... I haven't looked at the score in-depth, but have you checked through the harp pedalings? Some of those harp passages might be tricky to pull off...

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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Joe,

    I am hearing it the fourth time while writing this and will surely have more listens. It is a very interesting, telling piece and I like it!

    The overall sound is fine but since you are heading towards publication and asking for feedback ... the first thing to tackle in these renderings are the passages that shout "sample". This is more easy the case with longer notes which should be "disturbed" by change of dynamics, vibrato frequency, brightness, whatever ... to avoid an "electronic organ" effect. The critical phase for me here are the first 28 secs.
    In 10:20 I hear some overlapping.
    The machine gun effect is not so critical for me.

    Hannes

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    Re: Sulis-Revisited featuring Stradivari

    Quote Originally Posted by Inkfingers
    The only thing I wonder about... I haven't looked at the score in-depth, but have you checked through the harp pedalings? Some of those harp passages might be tricky to pull off...
    Yes, I had a Harp teacher check through the part for pedallings and suchlike, and there was 1 bar I had to change, because it couldnt be pedalled fast enough. I also had to respell many of the notes (B to Cb).The score I have offered for viewing is a first draft, without the benefit of these revisions.
    In preparation for writing this piece I studied the Ravel Introduction and Allegro, which uses the same line up.It is an eye-opening piece in terms of the Harp being a virtuosic soloist.
    Thanks for the comments and appreciation

    regards Joe

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    What is the notational software you are using? The score is first-rate arranged.
    I agree, the Strad offers a realism that can only be matched or out performed by a live performance.
    Love this work of art! Wow! Really love the harp so naturally played! Time to sit back an listen in solitude.
    Excellent work! Thats a five star composition.
    Styxx

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