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    Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    I'm looking for an internal drive to store samples, and two good value drives seem to be good locally. Both Maxtor... here are the specs -

    DRIVE 1 - MAXTOR SATA ULTRA - $130cdn

    100GB Serial ATA/150 hard drive
    World's fastest ATA interface
    7200 RPM
    8MB buffer cache for enhanced performance
    Average seek time: < 9ms
    Ideal for high-performance RAID
    Thin, easy-plug cable for improved airflow
    Simple, no-jumper installation
    PC and Mac compatible
    Whisper-quiet operation

    DRIVE 2 - MAXTOR ULTRA DMA 133 - $90cdn

    100GB Ultra DMA 133
    7200RPM
    8MB buffer cache
    Average seek time: < 9ms

    Is drive 1 worth the extra $40? Am I going to be disappointed by the performance of either? They both seem pretty good value.

    I don't have huge demands - I might run a full big band with JABB and need extra drum or bass or synth samples, but never a full orchestra with a massive library.

    My PC in case it makes a difference is a Pentium D920 (dual core 2.8Ghz) running Windows XP MCE, with 2Gig RAM.

    Rich

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    Re: Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    Seek time and size are the most important aspects. Since they're the same, the cleaper IDE drive wins.

    However, make sure that you have enough IDE cables available. If you just have one OS drive and one DVD drive, the IDE should be fine. (Run the sample drive as the Master with no Slave on its cable.) But if you don't have a spare IDE connector, then it may be better to go with SATA (assuming that your mobo supports it). The SATA drive might save you the cost and hassle of an extra IDE board.

    -JF

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    Re: Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    On the other hand, when a drives transfer rate maxes out, the head typically has to stop seeking and wait for a sector to come around again on the next rotation. All other things being equal, the drive with the higher transfer rate will experience this less often and dish out samples faster as a result.

    My older mobos have only uata onboard controllers so I put both sata and uata plug bays in my newer machines. Which I use with 120 and 200 gig Seagate satas and uatas with similarly matched seek times. I've learned to avoid the uatas for high-demand sample libraries. I use them pretty much exclusively for moving stuff between older/newer machines or in fw/usb drive cases shared with laptops. I have a sense that the days of the uata are numbered and at some point their prices will start to rise as they get harder to find.

    Howard

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    Re: Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    A cautionary tale however. I've used several hard drives, including several Western Digital drives and will never purchase one again no matter how much money I save. Why? Because among other things I had one of their drives fail on me in the first 48 hours of operation, another fail a couple years later only to be replaced by 2 or 3 bad drives from the same company before I finally got a drive from a different manafacturer to make the system work. That's unacceptable from my standpoint.

    Keep in mind the big picture: Even cheap labor repairing a computer is going to start at $35/hr in a metropolitan area for a guy that knows what he's doing in the U.S. in a best case scenario. Then take into account downtime, shipping costs for a replacement etc. and the damage done if files aren't backed up and a hard drive should be the LAST place you skimp on money.

    I say, keep those things in mind when buying a drive. I personally would reccomend a Maxtor or Seagate, though I'm sure there are other good candidates. But I would warn against getting a Western Digital for sure. Even if lots of people have good luck with them, you're still playing more of a #s game then with the others as far as I can tell.

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    Re: Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    Quote Originally Posted by dabbler
    I'm looking for an internal drive to store samples, and two good value drives seem to be good locally. Both Maxtor... here are the specs -

    DRIVE 1 - MAXTOR SATA ULTRA - $130cdn

    100GB Serial ATA/150 hard drive
    World's fastest ATA interface
    7200 RPM
    8MB buffer cache for enhanced performance


    DRIVE 2 - MAXTOR ULTRA DMA 133 - $90cdn

    100GB Ultra DMA 133
    7200RPM
    8MB buffer cache
    Average seek time: < 9ms

    Rich
    In addition, I found that site Lee Blaske mentioned still has much better prices than you mentioned. Here is the same model you talked about from Maxtor at $69.18 CDN (current exchange rate from US).

    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=100700-1

    Browse through their listings: You might want to go for a higher capacity as he suggested, even if you take up my cautionary tale about the brand.

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    Re: Ultra DMA 133 vs SATA 150

    Dabbler,

    Buy in BC, or any other province and you instantly save the provincial sales tax. Also, those prices are way out of wack by todays standards.

    Try ncix.com or vibecomputers, bother out of bc and both with great prices. Even tiger direct at tigerdirect.ca will be good for you as its out of province.

    steve

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