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    Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    Evidently two hi hat samples in the Brush kit have clicks on them. It seems to only affect the highest velocity level on F#1 and the second highest level on G1. The clicks are at the end of the tail of each sample, so when I open the samples in Kontakt 2, I don't hear the clicks, probably because there is a na envelope that is shutting down before it gets to the end of the sample. I was wondering if anyone else has heard/experienced this. I am using a 1.25Ghz Mac G4 with 2 gigs of ram.

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    I was unable to confirm this one on my PC system. Everything seems to be working fine (no clicks) and there is nothing in the wave files to indicate a possible source of the problem. At this point it would be very helpful if more users weigh in on this issue. I'm especially curious to see if other Mac users are noticing anything similar to Kinny in the brush kit closed hi hats. If you do post, be sure to include the speed of your computer. On the phone, Kinny mentioned that there was an obvious meter deflection in the player at the point of the click (which happens at the very end of the decay of the sound file.) This didn't happen on my system either.

    Tom

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    I'm on a PC and haven't experienced, but I'm wondering in particular what DFD playback settings are at work here. (not necessarily needed with 2GB RAM, but still might be active and potentially the source of the artifact)

    - m
    Free MFX and other plugins: http://www.TenCrazy.com/
    Markleford's music: http://www.markleford.com/music/

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    Markleford has an interesting point here that hadn't occurred to me. The library is designed to run in RAM. Running with DFD activated can cause problems. Check to see if it is activated.

    Tom

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    Yep, that did it. Turning off DFD from the options menu under the Load button fixed all the problems. I know I didn't enable it in the first place, but nice to know it's gone. Maybe that's why it was fine in Kontakt 2, which enables DFD by default and is designed to work with it. Anyway, that's the answer. Thanks Markleford.
    By the way, Tom, I'm about to spend money to buy some bowed vibes samples. Would be a nice thing to add to the library sometime, although it's not technically a JAZZ sound.
    Kinny Landrum

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    Good to hear it worked, but bad on NI for not tweaking their DFD algorithm. (sometimes for those very short samples it's counter-productive, especially if the cache is tweaked for long samples).

    Oh, you people and your crazy bowed vibes and cymbals! I suppose there's a need for a weird/spooky/prepared sound library in the future...

    - m
    Free MFX and other plugins: http://www.TenCrazy.com/
    Markleford's music: http://www.markleford.com/music/

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    Ah come on. I'm scoring a play for four cats: trumpet, bass, drums and vibes and it's about a cop shooting. I need every weird fx I can get out of those guys.

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    Re: Noise click on the end of two Hi hat samples

    That's why I'll never get rid of my real instruments: there are always extra strange noises they can make that nobody will ever sample!

    - m
    Free MFX and other plugins: http://www.TenCrazy.com/
    Markleford's music: http://www.markleford.com/music/

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