• Register
  • Help
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 29

Topic: Legal question for the developers

Share/Bookmark
  1. #1
    Senior Member Tom Crowning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    On the other side of the big pond
    Posts
    226

    Legal question for the developers

    Hello,
    I would like to build a sample library from software synthesizers like
    NI Absynth of NI Pro53 (mainly for my own use and public download,
    but could become professional as well).

    I already know that I'm NOT allowed to do this with sample based libraries,
    but obviously software synthesized sounds are something different.

    So far Native Instruments completely failed to give me an answer, so maybe
    you developers can provide me some more background information on how
    this is handled in your company.

    Thank you in advance for your time.

    Tom

    PS: if this information is not for the general public feel free to send me
    a personal email!

  2. #2

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Tricky! If it was preset sounds, I defenitly would'nt do it.
    I don't know if it would be an infringment, but in my book, it's a no-no.
    Also, sampling a synth that's so to speak in the market would also, in my opinion, be out of bounds.
    If I where to sample a synth, software or hardware, I would use a synth that's out of production and not use any factory presets.
    As you say, anything sampled-based are forbidden for sure.
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

  3. #3

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Crowning
    Hello,
    I would like to build a sample library from software synthesizers like
    NI Absynth of NI Pro53 (mainly for my own use and public download,
    but could become professional as well).
    Why?
    Why on earth would you criple these great innovative VSTi´s by sampling them? They work fine as they are. In fact they work much better as synth than they ever would as samples.

    Legal: They are protected under copyright and if somebody needs such sounds they will have to buy the original products that are a licensed to use. Sampling sounds from commercially available software goes against copyright. Just read the license agreements of these products and you´ll get the picture.

    If you want to create a sample library, sample something new.

    Asking people on this forum what samples they are missing could get you some ideas.
    Best regards,
    Michiel Post


  4. #4
    Senior Member Tom Crowning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    On the other side of the big pond
    Posts
    226

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Post
    Why?
    Why on earth would you criple these great innovative VSTi´s by sampling them? They work fine as they are. In fact they work much better as synth than they ever would as samples.
    The main idea was to get a polyphonic Pro53 and abuse it with some K2
    scripting, which is AFAIK not possible with the Pro53 alone.
    And because I plan to buy NIs Pro53 AND Absynth I asked for both.
    Additionaly I'm a curious guy

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Post
    Just read the license agreements of these products and you´ll get the picture.
    I plan to buy these products, so I can't read the license agreements now.
    I always try to get as much information as possible before spending my
    money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Post
    If you want to create a sample library, sample something new.

    Asking people on this forum what samples they are missing could get you some ideas.
    I agree. My intention was to create something for my personal use, but
    keep all options open if there should be a market for such a library.

    Thank you (both) very much for your feedback.

    Tom

  5. #5

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    HeyTom,

    I'm not a sample developer, but I like "anlogue" synthesis, FM... and have thought about doing what you are gonna do more than once. I have asked myself the same question you're asking here. Recently, I saw a new sound library from East West called Outer Limits. It's a Kompakt based library containing samples from hardware and software synthesizers and processed after with some hardware units and plugins. Here's the link: http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/...html?sku=ZG313 (scroll down to the List of equipment used)

    Maybe you can contact with the guys at East West or Zero-G, but I don't know if they will be as responsive as developers who post here. Anyway, give it a try. I agree with Worra, you should avoid sampling preset sounds, and I suppose you should have access to the product license of a product BEFORE buying it, so maybe you can ask for the license docs of those synths before buying them, or you can ask a friend who has them.

    Since I would like to do something similar, feel free to PM me and we can interchange opinions and ideas.

    -Dani-

  6. #6

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    We have a series of synth libraries coming soon.

    Anyone want a massive looping gig?

  7. #7

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bela D Media
    We have a series of synth libraries coming soon.

    Anyone want a massive looping gig?
    Looping is soooo fun, specially looping 3000+ stereo sample! Good luck with the upcoming synth library!
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

  8. #8

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    It's crazy, though not as bad as looping kiddie voices. We used Steve Howell for that. He's the man. But when I sent him 4,000+ wavs via spreadsheet, the cost was too high and I would have to refi my house

    Thanks for the best wishes Worra

  9. #9

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bela D Media
    It's crazy, though not as bad as looping kiddie voices. We used Steve Howell for that. He's the man. But when I sent him 4,000+ wavs via spreadsheet, the cost was too high and I would have to refi my house

    Thanks for the best wishes Worra
    If you haven't done so, check out Zero-X Seemless Looper. It's a great instrument for looping! Real time-saver, but 4000+ loops... phew!
    Worra
    SampleTekk

    Arf, arf, arf...

  10. #10

    Re: Legal question for the developers

    Thanks. I will pass it on. I know Steve is big on Infinity but no Steve on this gig.

    And for the record, it was not my idea to create a synth collection. I need that like a hole in the head Should be very cool though. They are all dream-scape like and geared for film. Multi volumes based on moods of darkness and light.

Go Back to forum

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •