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    GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    I've been feeling my way around GPO. Trying out it's sounds/capabilities and loved it. (wish I had something like this 20 yrs ago). I have a newbie question concerning GOP with Cubasis that came with it.
    I followed the Cubasis tutorial from your web site, but found that upon playback, there is no sound. I started to fool around a bit and founded that if I record using GPO Studio instead, there is sound upon playback. What was I doing wrong ? Is there a preferred way in Cubasis for using GPO as VST or using Studio?
    A second question... as I was playing around with GPO, I noticed that when I use the mouse to click on the Kontakt keyboard, I get an immediate and louder sound then when I play it from my midi keyboard. The sound is much softer when played from the keyboard and there's a perceptable delay between the keys pressed and the sound produced.

    I appologize for the lengthy questions.
    Best regards.

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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    Not sure what is wrong but I did have this problem when I started too. For Cutbasis it appears when you export to wav or mp3 file, you must have choosen VST instruments for the tracks that you have events on. I did it once with Cubasis + studio and sequence,during it you hear weird fast sounds but nothing is transferred to the file you're exporting. But VST works.

    Hope that helped.
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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    Thanks for the reply, Tovan.

    However, I was doing any exports (that'll be another excercise!). I was simply trying to playback what was recorded.

    Did you also notice a delay between key down and sound heard when playing an GPO instrument? I tried adjusting the velocity but that did not help.

    Regards

    Pete

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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    On the mini GPO keyboard with all the instruments, for me, while playing with it produce their regular volume, and almost no delay, I test it and it seems to have the velocity value of 100, the default for my notation program. But I do not have a keyboard or such a hardware, unfortunately =\.
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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    I'm sorry I wasn't clear stating my questions, and on top of it I made a typo in the last email. I meant to say 'I was not doing any exports'.

    I have 2 problems(so far) that I need help with. One is that there is no sound upon playback in CUBASIS when using GPO as VST. I followed the tutorial, loaded the lite version of the piano, assigned GPO VST to midi tracked one. As I record I can hear the sound was there when I record the midi track. When I play back, I can see the track's meter bounce, but there's no sound.

    The other problem is more of an annoyance. It is that when I play the GPO instrument using an external midi keyboard, I get a latency between key pressed and sound produced. This does not happen when I click on the keys of the mini Kontakt keyboard using a mouse. Also the sound is much louder when using the mouse.

    What am I doing wrong? Or what'd I missed doing?

    My setup:
    Dell Pentium 4 (2.0 ghz)
    1 gig ram
    2 internal HDs - 40 gig and 120 gig.
    GPO, Cubasis VST, Overture LE (both came with GPO) with all updates applied. GPO and company are installed on the E: drive.
    Yamaha DX7IIfd
    Uno midi interface (usb)

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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    Quote Originally Posted by peteyu
    I'm sorry I wasn't clear stating my questions, and on top of it I made a typo in the last email. I meant to say 'I was not doing any exports'.

    I have 2 problems(so far) that I need help with. One is that there is no sound upon playback in CUBASIS when using GPO as VST. I followed the tutorial, loaded the lite version of the piano, assigned GPO VST to midi tracked one. As I record I can hear the sound was there when I record the midi track. When I play back, I can see the track's meter bounce, but there's no sound.

    The other problem is more of an annoyance. It is that when I play the GPO instrument using an external midi keyboard, I get a latency between key pressed and sound produced. This does not happen when I click on the keys of the mini Kontakt keyboard using a mouse. Also the sound is much louder when using the mouse.

    What am I doing wrong? Or what'd I missed doing?

    My setup:
    Dell Pentium 4 (2.0 ghz)
    1 gig ram
    2 internal HDs - 40 gig and 120 gig.
    GPO, Cubasis VST, Overture LE (both came with GPO) with all updates applied. GPO and company are installed on the E: drive.
    Yamaha DX7IIfd
    Uno midi interface (usb)

    1: increase volume with the modulation wheel of your keyboard. Used as VST
    instrument GPO's volume defaults to 0 (zero, nada, ...).

    2: you need a soundcard that supports low latency audio drivers (ASIO) to
    reduce the latency. Onboard soundcards normaly do not support ASIO.
    Notes played with the mouse/keyboard are louder because they use
    a velocity value of 127 for each note.

    Good luck,
    Tom

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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    Hi Tom, thanks for the response.

    On (1), I think I know what I was doing wrong. I fired up GPO from outside Cubasis, instead of from inside by using the Edit button inside the VST window. So when I playback, there's no instrument to play even though I assigned the midi tracks to GPO VST because I never loaded it inside!

    As for (2), I inadvertenly omitted the soundcard from my inventory list. I had installed a SB Audigy 2zs and I was using its ASIO. After seeing your replay I went looking for the latency setting and found it in Cubasis. I reduced the buffer size from 5512 to 2500 and got all kinds of crackles and pops. An now my whole pc is acting sluggish... Well, at least now I know where to tweek it.

    I wanted to reply sooner but had problem signing in to the forum. it welcomed me after I singned in, then went back to behave as if I didn't.

    ... So big the lerning curve, so little time. I'm flying blind here doing trial and error. Is there a book out there on Cubasis/GPO ?

    Thanks again!

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    Re: GPO Studio vs VST in Cubasis

    Your latency problem could be a MIDI interface issue. I, too, use the Uno and there is a slight delay for me too. But I don't have ASIO, so it could just be coincidence.

    -Chris

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