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    Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

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    Ya know,Lot's of stuff to ponder here on this forum. I've read whining on copy protection, liberal and conservative rhetoric- people who want the Iraq war, humans who don't. The thing that is interesting to me is EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE IN 20 YEARS OR LESS. Everything. To get a sense of what I'm talking about go here http://www.kurzweilai.net/

    You MUST read everything on the Singularity. Oil,issues of personal privacy, life itself will fundamentally change in a way that humans have not experienced since language was developed.

    Nothing I read on this forum seems very important when I think about the current world state of affairs and what's coming in TWENTY YEARS.

    Of course, Since this is Ray Kurzweil's site it has relevance. I read this site , then I read the whining about copy protection and I just have to laugh.

    Anyway, I'm sure you will find this interesting. http://www.kurzweilai.net/

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    The biggest thing he presupposes is that we'll invest in the research necessary to pull that ("immortality") off.

    Really interesting guy, though. And I used the instruments he invented for 15 years (before software took over).

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    Right- but then again, one might say (in 50 years) "I knew him 15 years ago before he was software"
    I am more interested in the implications of nanotechnology which is a done deal. THAT is going to change everything. I'm excited to see what this world will be like when EVERYONE has unlimited clean energy, food and shelter. It is then that humans can be whole and start experiencing life from a perspective other than day to day survival. We, as a rich culture, have'nt a clue what that means.
    Regardless, after reading Ray's site, I now eat more veggies. Next, excersize!

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    Yes, the old "immortality" chestnut always makes me laugh.

    Immortality is strictly for the rich. And even if it comes free, try offering it to any poor third-world peasant or factory worker and you'll be told where to stick it. One lifetime of poverty, slavery, and disease is enough.

    Kind regards.

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Bourke
    Yes, the old "immortality" chestnut always makes me laugh.

    Immortality is strictly for the rich. And even if it comes free, try offering it to any poor third-world peasant or factory worker and you'll be told where to stick it. One lifetime of poverty, slavery, and disease is enough.

    Kind regards.
    Very good point David.

    One lifetime of being rich and famous is probably enough for most people too actually, come to think about it.

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    I was hoping y'all would check out the stuff on nantechnology and AI. This is the stuff that will change our world profoundly. The immortality stuff is interesting but still a long shot. The "nano-news" and AI is a done deal(more or less) Comments? Thanks. Kevin

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by artsoundz
    I was hoping y'all would check out the stuff on nantechnology and AI. This is the stuff that will change our world profoundly. The immortality stuff is interesting but still a long shot. The "nano-news" and AI is a done deal(more or less) Comments? Thanks. Kevin
    Okay. My fiance' told me we could have Ramona over for dinner.
    "They get what they vote for." PaulR

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    I would not advise it. She does'nt seem to focus well, and frankly, self absorbed. Maybe next version.

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    Quote Originally Posted by artsoundz
    I would not advise it. She does'nt seem to focus well, and frankly, self absorbed. Maybe next version.
    True, but she has a morally casual attitude (Ramona).
    "They get what they vote for." PaulR

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    Re: Ray Kurzweil and the Singularity

    I've just spent an hour reading about interactions with Ramona and I'm really disappointed that chatterbot algorithms don't seem to have been improved since the days of Eliza (and her evil alter-ego, Azile) on Mac OS 6/7 all those years ago (the concept of Eliza herself actually goes back to 1966).

    http://i5.nyu.edu/~mm64/x52.9265/january1966.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

    In fact, Eliza was a far better illusion in every respect that Mr. Kurzweil's creation. She has been ported to a web interface:

    http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza/eliza.html

    http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

    Or you can download Eliza and other chatterbots here:

    http://www.spaceports.com/~sjlaven/eliza.htm

    You can also download the evil Azile for Mac OS 8/9 here:

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project...a/azile/0.html

    Or, for $5 ($10 for Eliza for OS X), the last Mac OS version here:

    http://www.tex-edit.com/index.html#Azile

    Kind regards.

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