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    Question about Sibelius Plugins

    Hey everyone,


    I just located the plug-in that Neil Sands wrote for Sibelius incorporating some keyswitches for Strings.

    I was wondering if anyone has written any other plugins for Sibelius? I'm thinking if someone were to write a plug-in to handel all the keyswitched instruments, how much simpler would that make my and I'm sure some other members lives. Now, I have no idea how much time and effort this would take, it's just a thought. I'd do it, but I know almost nothing about programming and I'd end up just asking someone else here to help me. So I figured I'd skip a step.

    OK, back to wishful thinking.

    Jonny
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    Re: Question about Sibelius Plugins

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Lost
    Hey everyone,


    I just located the plug-in that Neil Sands wrote for Sibelius incorporating some keyswitches for Strings.

    I was wondering if anyone has written any other plugins for Sibelius? I'm thinking if someone were to write a plug-in to handel all the keyswitched instruments, how much simpler would that make my and I'm sure some other members lives. Now, I have no idea how much time and effort this would take, it's just a thought. I'd do it, but I know almost nothing about programming and I'd end up just asking someone else here to help me. So I figured I'd skip a step.

    OK, back to wishful thinking.

    Jonny
    Jonny,

    Don't forget the Cresc/Decresc plug-in for GPO - it allows for dynamic changes on a sustained pitch, and writes as a ~C1,xx as opposed to ~C7. works very well. You can find it on the Garritan download page.

    Sorry I can't help you with the other plug-in issue...

    R. Pearl

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    Re: Question about Sibelius Plugins

    I've been in correspondence with Neil Sands with the creation of a plug-in, using a workaround I came up with that enables you to give a sustain effect on the piano part, and use no sustain pedal markings, and also use the legato mode with strings etc at the same time.

    I've sent Gary a wave file/mp3 conversion from the "record to file" of the Sibelius 3 playback from the GPO studio of a piano concerto that is finished [in regard to the orchestration that is] of it at work. It works well - I did it through the live playback and properties window, changing the duration of the notes. I only sent him about 2 minutes of extract to give him the idea, but I have not posted it - um, yes..I admit I just don't know how to do the posting bit as yet, and there is a few crackles etc because of my CPU usage being a bit high, - playing Sib 3 and GPO studio at the same time is pretty demanding. Hopefully I will [hopefully], have the demo ready by the end of this week. Gary has offered to post it on the forum for me. [I'm a primary school music specialist and the 2nd week of school has started - time is a problem trying to get this finished at the moment].

    Neil is able to create a plug-in to do this using the method, but I am not in the position financially to pay for this. I'm certainly not going to expect him to do it for nothing. If anybody is interested in contributing towards the cost of creating the plug-in, please let me know. The payment is very reasonable [and probably a lot cheaper than others would charge for a specially constructed piece of software]. That means not only me, but it would be open for everyone as a download from the Sibelius tutorial page for free.

    I know in Finale 2006 this problem is solved, due to an excellent bit of programming by Robert Piéchaud, and the Finale team, but the plug-in, of course would work for Sib3, and Sib4 also [well, I think it should for Sib 4 as well - the playback has not altered too much].

    I've posted the file of the extracted piano concerto part that uses this method on the Sibelius Chat page. Anybody is free to download it to see how this was done.
    You have to make sure that "Live Playback" is switched on, and you'll notice no sustain/pedal marks, and also with the GPO player switched to have "No Sustain' etc on, ...the piano still sounds like it's in sustain mode.

    I am not sure, but I think the sustain legato conflict may be fixed in GPO Advanced, either way, those who do not have the GPO advanced would still have the use for it in the normal GPO version, and well, if it isn't - well, all sib users would benefit from this.


    Oh, yes, on creating plug-ins for Sibelius, there is a special pdf file that comes with Sib 3 called "Manuscript", which tells you how to program, but you need to have a little knowledge of programming to do this. I just don't have the time to learn due to teaching commitments etc. Simkin is the language it is based on, and the creator of it did give me info that learning Java would be the best way to get you into knowing the programming language used for Sibelius plug-ins.


    Just thought people may be interested.

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