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    GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    Hi,
    The title sort of says it all for me. GSt3 is working very well. It's fast and stable so far. I've had it a month and I'm quite happy. All of my old gigs work. Seems that some performance files don't load or only partially load the instruments I want but I've been fixing those by hand and getting by. Overall I was very happy and looking forward to trying out an orchestral library which I've never owned...

    Well, so much for looking forward to that experience. So far VSO on my system doesn't sound the least bit real no matter what I try. There don't seem to be any performance files to set up an orchestra in any standard way, nor any MIDI files to help me, so I'm left scratching my head which is at this point bleeding.

    Granted I know less than zero about really scoring for an orchestra, but I've written parts for strings, etc., and embedded them in pop/rock stuff using other synths and they were fine/ I wanted sounds that were more real out of VSO but for me it isn't working.

    What I think I'm missing is some sort of tutorial. I see a reasonably priced tutorial package on the VSO site but it seems to be for one of the monster VSO packages and not for whatever version really came with GSt3 Orchestra. (What did come? It's not First Edition and VSO doesn't list anything that's aroudn 10GB so I don't know what I've bought...)

    Can anyone guide me in the right direction to make some value out of all of this disk space? Does anyone here share MIDI files of demos or examples to help those of us more challenged? I hope so. I'm lost and nearly entering into depression over this...

    Thanks in advance,
    Mark

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    Re: GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    You would be better off asking questions on the VSL website as there you can get specialist advice about the library.

    Daryl

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    Re: GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    Quote Originally Posted by Daryl
    You would be better off asking questions on the VSL website as there you can get specialist advice about the library.

    Daryl
    Daryl,
    I wondered about that, and I did sign up today, but as the version of VSO that is shipped with GSt3 (what is this? VSO LIght? I don't know...) doesn't even seem to be listed on their website. After reading some threads I started to get the impression that possibly this was something special for GST users only and I'd end up hearing 'we can't help you unless you buy XXX'.

    Thanks for responding,
    Mark

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    Re: GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    There's a sample library section on this forum, that would be a better place to ask.

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    Re: GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_Knecht
    Daryl,
    I wondered about that, and I did sign up today, but as the version of VSO that is shipped with GSt3 (what is this? VSO LIght? I don't know...) doesn't even seem to be listed on their website. After reading some threads I started to get the impression that possibly this was something special for GST users only and I'd end up hearing 'we can't help you unless you buy XXX'.

    Thanks for responding,
    Mark
    It is a special version that ships with GS, however, you will find the people on the VSL website very helpful, so I'd suggest that you give it a try.

    Daryl

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    Re: GSt3 Orch. - I cannot get GSt3's VSO to sound the least bit real

    Here's a quick tip that may help:

    For strings and brass try stacking the staccato 1+2 with the mod-wheel sustains. This makes the attack dependent upon velocity and the expression dependent on the mod-wheel, kind of like GPO.

    The problem, especially with the strings, is that the sustains have a very slow attack, so they're good for pads, but not so good for melodic work. The staccato patches have fast attacks, but can't play slow melodies, since the durations are too short.

    It's not a perfect solution - you can often hear the overlap of the patches - but it gets things started. After playing things in you can always swap the straight staccato or sustain patches in where appropriate.

    Best of luck!

    -JF

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