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    Question Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    How does one achieve slides up and or down with stings, violin solo, string sections and? No way pitch bend possible. It has to be done somehow in edit window but what is the best technique to achieve the closest natural effect? I'm stumped.
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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Styxx
    How does one achieve slides up and or down with stings
    Styxx,
    I got this using chromatic 64th's with pedal down.
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by billp
    Styxx,
    I got this using chromatic 64th's with pedal down.
    Also try the new length control CC#21

    Björn

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Slandrom
    Also try the new length control CC#21

    Björn
    Thanks
    This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?
    Styxx

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Styxx
    Thanks
    This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?
    I use it within Finale as an expression with midi-information Don´t think you can use it direct in the Kontakt Player.

    Björn

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Oh, OK. Thanks for the help anyway. I guess it's not that important. I'll figure it out.
    Thanks again.
    Styxx

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    With keyswitched Solo Strings I used the following:
    Before the 1st note put keyswitch C(x) and controller CC64 = 127.
    Before the 2nd note put controller CC20 = 127 for longest portamento (start with CC20 = 127 - it'll help to figure out how it works). The less value of CC20 - the faster slide. Don't forget to put CC20 = 0 at the end of the 2nd note or you'll end up with slide between all the following notes.
    BTW, conroller CC21 has nothing to do with portamento.
    sfiks

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Styxx
    Thanks
    This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?
    Just saw it is on the Kontakt also, but that way I suppose it will be "on" for that instrument the whole piece.

    Björn

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Slandrom
    Just saw it is on the Kontakt also, but that way I suppose it will be "on" for that instrument the whole piece.

    Björn

    No, like all controls on the Kontakt player, the length control only effects all samples if they're all set to the same midi channel. You can have 8 instruments loaded in the 8 slots of a single player, and each instrument can have a different "length" value. As well as different Var. 1 & Var. 2 values.

    JT

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    Re: Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

    Quote Originally Posted by sfiks
    Before the 2nd note put controller CC20
    I had messed around with portamento, but found it unpredictable in the sense that you have to tweak around with the value to get

    just the right rate. Then if you change the tempo of that section, its timing is no longer right and you have to go back and tweak

    around with it again. Too bad there's not a "gliss" function that basically works like: "go from this note to that note and make

    the gliss (portamento) the length of the first note" and be able to specify the slope.

    BTW, conroller CC21 has nothing to do with portamento.
    But it does have to do with lengthening the release, which in combination with eliminating the attack with the CC64, gives a very

    nice predictable gliss using a chromatic series of very short notes. This admittedly is useful only in faster passages.

    I think I saw somewhere in this forum another technique using a series of pitch wheel changes, in conjunction with a chromatic

    series, but it didn't work for me either.
    Bill

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