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    KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    This is a lengthy post, giving you the complete .gig files list for the Kirk Hunter Concert Strings. Notice the easy naming conventions along with the number of separate layers giving you the option of customizing your own string orchestra sound. A .gig files of the Solo Strings will be posted later. REMEMBER - Midnight PST Oct 31 is the last date for ordering at the pre-release price of $399. On November 1, because of the addition of the Distant Strings, the price moves up to $599.00US.

    KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS GIG FILE LIST
    For Close, Far, and Distant Mic Positions. This list is consistently repeated for Close, Far and Distant Positions.

    SYMPHONIC STRINGS
    Here the strings are spread across the entire keyboard.

    Short Notes
    Short Notes Far Mutes
    Sus Far
    Sus Far Mutes

    CHAMBER STRINGS FULL ENSEMBLE
    Here the strings are spread across the entire keyboard. Separate Chamber Sections are listed below:

    Sustained
    Sustained Muted
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted


    24VIOLINS
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Shote Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects (trem, trill, etc.)
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted
    Alternate Light Vibrato (BONUS!)

    10 1st VIOLINS (CHAMBER)
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted
    Alternate Light Vibrato (BONUS!)

    10 2nd VIOLINS (CHAMBER)
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted
    Alternate Light Vibrato (BONUS)

    16 VIOLAS
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted

    8 VIOLAS (Chamber)
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted

    12 CELLOS
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted

    6 CELLOS (Chamber)
    Heavy Vibrato
    Heavy Vibrato Mutes
    Light Vibrato
    Light Vibrato Mutes
    No Vibrato
    No Vibrato Mutes
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustained Combinations and Effects
    Sustained Combinations and Effects Muted

    6 BASSES
    Combinations and Effects
    Combinations and Effects Muted
    Short Notes
    Short Notes Muted
    Sustain
    Sustain Muted

    3 BASSES (Chamber)
    Combinations and Effects
    Combinations and Effects Muted
    Short Notes
    Sustain

    **********************************
    SELECTED EXPANDED GIG FILES

    TYPICAL LIGHT VIBRATO ORGANIZATION – 24Vns
    VELOCITY VOL/ AFTERTOUCH VIB
    LEG Sus LV Aftvib
    MED Sus LV Aftvib
    HARD Sus LV Aftvib
    VEL Accent Sus LV AftVib

    VELOCITY VOLUME ONLY
    LEG Sus LV
    MED Sus LV
    HARD Sus LV
    VEL Accent Sus LV
    DETACHE LV
    LEG SHORT LV

    VEL VOL/AFT VIB/AFTERTOUCH VIB
    MOD Accent Sus LV Aftvib

    MODWHEEL VOL/AFTERTOUCH VIB
    LEG Sus Lv Aftvib
    MED Sus LV
    HARD Sus LV
    DETACHE LV
    LEG SHORT LV

    MODWHEEL VOL/VEL ATTK/AFTERTOUCH VIB
    LEG Sus, DET, MARC, LV Aftvib

    KEYSWITCHED
    Sus Attks Co – D#0, Up/Downbow E0 – G0

    SEPARATE LAYERS
    LEG Sus LV p
    LEG Sus LV mp
    LEG Sus LV mf
    LEG Sus LV f

    MED Sus LV p
    MED Sus LV mp
    MED Sus LV mf
    MED Sus LV f

    HARD Sus LV p
    HARD SUS LV f

    DETACHE LV p
    DETACHE LV mp
    DETACHE LV mf
    DETACHE LV f

    LEG SHORT LV p
    LEG SHORT LV mp
    LEG SHORT LV mf
    LEG SHORT LV f

    **********************************
    SHORT NOTES ORGANIZATION
    VELOCITY VOLUME ONLY
    Marc Detache
    Stacc DB
    Stacc UB
    Pizzicato
    Detache HV
    Detache LV
    Legato Short HV
    Legato Short LV

    MODWHEEL VOLUME ONLY
    Marc Detache
    Stacc DB
    Stacc UB
    Pizz
    Detache HV
    Detache LV
    Leg Short HV
    Leg Short LV

    MODWHEEL DOWNBOW/UPBOW
    Stacc Mod Down/Up

    KEYSWITCHED C0
    HV DET, LEG, MARC, STACC
    LV DET, LEG, MARC, STACC
    ALL DET , LEG, MARC, STACC, PIZZ

    SEPARATE LAYERS
    Marc Detache p
    Marc Detache mp
    Marc Detache mf
    Marc Detache f

    Stacc Downbow p
    Stacc Downbow mp
    Stacc Downbow mf
    Stacc Downbow f

    Stacc Upbow p
    Stacc Upbow mp
    Stacc Upbow mf
    Stacc Upbow f

    Pizz p
    Pizz mp
    Pizz mf
    Pizz f

    Detache HV p
    Detache HV mp
    Detache HV mf
    Detache HV f

    Detache LV p
    Detache LV mp
    Detache LV mf
    Detache LV f

    Leg Short HV p
    Leg Short HV mp
    Leg Short HV mf
    Leg Short HV mf

    Leg Short LV p
    Leg Short LV mp
    Leg Short LV mf
    Leg Short LV f

    **********************************
    COMBINATIONS AND EFFECTS
    SUSTAINED COMBINATIONS AND EFFECTS - 24 Vns

    VEL XF VIB, Aft VIB HV
    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    MED Sus, VEL XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    VEL Accent Sus, VEL XF VIB, Aft = More Vibrato

    MODWHEEL XF VIB, Aft VIB HV
    LEG Sus, MOD XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    MED Sus,MOD XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    HARD Sus, MOD XF VIB, Aft=More Vib
    VEL Accent Sus, MOD XF VIB, Aft = More Vibrato

    WITH TREMOLOS
    Leg Trem
    Med Trem
    Hard Trem

    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM
    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM Swell

    MED Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM
    MED Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM Swell

    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM
    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB MOD Adds TRM Swell

    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod =SL, Aft = TRM
    MED Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod =SL, Aft = TRM
    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod =SL, Aft = TRM

    WITH TRILLS
    Half Step Trills
    Whole Step Trills

    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds Htr
    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds Htr Swell

    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds Htr
    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds Htr Swell

    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds WStr
    LEG Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds WStr Swell

    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds WStr
    HARD Sus, VEL XF VIB, Mod Adds WStr Swell

    KEYSWITCHED LEG, HARD+RUNS, SL, HARM
    HV, LV, NV, TRM, HTR, WTR, Sl, RUNS, HARM

    Slides
    Run Up
    Run Down
    Harmonics

    ************************************
    To ORDER:
    http://www.kirkhunter.com/libraries/strings.shtml

    To get the pre-release price we MUST have your order no later than MIDNIGHT PST, October 31,2004. Library price does go up on November 1 to $599.00US. Comes with 15DVDs (compressed with Winrar), approximately 100GB - 120GB. Mic Positions can be loaded individually. All instruments recorded in their seated onstage position, no panning or EQ required.
    Peter L. Alexander
    www.professionalorchestration.com
    www.alexanderpublishing.com
    Learn it right the first time.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Wow, great list!

    It seems to me that almost no playing technique are left out. Unfortunatly I'm out of budget this year - so I won't be able to get this special deal.
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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Any chance to hope for a lite version? I'm not sure about the rest, but I don't need all the mic positions - I think the far micing is sufficient for most cases. Furthermore, I don't have the disc space to put 15 DVDs worth of samples.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheez
    ...I don't have the disc space to put 15 DVDs worth of samples.
    You wouldn't have to load them all if you didn't want to.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Hines
    You wouldn't have to load them all if you didn't want to.
    True. But still 3 mic positions... A reduced version offering one mic position will be nice. Otherwise I'll pay for 3 mic positions and use only 1.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    It seems that the articulations and instruments are all included in all three mic positions. Then it seems that one mic position includes about 35 gigs of samples. Garritan Orchestral Strings costs as much and it has about 10 gigs of samples. I've used GOS and loved it but if the KH Strings are any good (still waiting for new demos ) then they will be unbeatable in the bang-for-the-buck ratio. It is easy to think that the two additional mic positions are just an added bonus. Unlike the price / mic positions situation in SAM True Strike.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by janila
    It seems that the articulations and instruments are all included in all three mic positions. Then it seems that one mic position includes about 35 gigs of samples. Garritan Orchestral Strings costs as much and it has about 10 gigs of samples. I've used GOS and loved it but if the KH Strings are any good (still waiting for new demos ) then they will be unbeatable in the bang-for-the-buck ratio. It is easy to think that the two additional mic positions are just an added bonus. Unlike the price / mic positions situation in SAM True Strike.
    So, Tony, think about what you just said. You're getting three (3!) libraries for the price of one. The larger size is about completeness and consistency. MY gosh, no other library has a complete set of muted strings in three mic positions for full sections and chamber!

    As designed by Kirk, three mic positions are essentially three different orchestras each with its own sound. Factor in the possibilities with GS3, and you have the opportunity to create your own custom orchestral sound in a way that cannot be done with any other library.

    We won't be reducing this library by size. The price is the big reduction. Compare the size and pricing to what's available now and recent announcements about updates, and you'll see this is the best value going.

    One final note. Because we've added in the Distant Strings and are keeping the basic solo strings, the price is going up on Monday to $599US. Which is still 5x LESS than other libraries.

    With the exchange rates being what they are in Canada, don't lose out on the pre-release pricing.
    Peter L. Alexander
    www.professionalorchestration.com
    www.alexanderpublishing.com
    Learn it right the first time.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by peter269
    One final note. Because we've added in the Distant Strings and are keeping the basic solo strings, the price is going up on Monday to $599US. Which is still 5x LESS than other libraries.
    These comparisons are ridiculous. First of all 599 USD * 5 is 2995 USD and I don't know of a strings only library costing that much. The VSL might be more expensive and smaller but you cannot claim that that would make KH strings better than VSL. The same goes with EWQLSO and SI strings.

    If the whole KH library will be 995 USD as you have stated then the full VSL will be atleast 5 times more expensive. Still this comparison isn't fair as the full VSL library has the great performance set and full percussions which the KH library doesn't have. Is there a point in these comparisons? Which are better, apples or bananas?

    Hmm. Now you aren't giving the mic positions for free but you are charging for them. You already announced that the regular price will be 499 USD. Keep consistent about the things you announce. Adding more data to the library doesn't mean that you can randomly change the pricing whenever you feel the need to do so. I don't know if the additional data will be of any value to me and therefore you aren't making the library look more tempting but you are making me feel that I can't trust what you say. The demo situation is ridiculous and so is the way you inform us about your product. Could you please take your time and do the things right once without hesitating and afterwards correcting your statements.

    So if you are changing the pricing of the strings are you also changing the pricing of the whole orchestral series? Will the woodwinds and brass total up to 396 USD for people who have paid the 599 price for the strings so that the full library will be 995 USD? How can we trust that what you say about this now will remain the same when the woodwinds and brass are actually available?

    You should also point out that the introductory price of 399 USD won't be eligible for the 995 price for the whole library. I still think it's silly that the people trusting your words and buying the product without knowing anything real about it have to pay more than the people waiting for some demos and reviews.

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    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by janila
    These comparisons are ridiculous. First of all 599 USD * 5 is 2995 USD and I don't know of a strings only library costing that much. The VSL might be more expensive and smaller but you cannot claim that that would make KH strings better than VSL. The same goes with EWQLSO and SI strings.

    If the whole KH library will be 995 USD as you have stated then the full VSL will be atleast 5 times more expensive. Still this comparison isn't fair as the full VSL library has the great performance set and full percussions which the KH library doesn't have. Is there a point in these comparisons? Which are better, apples or bananas?

    Hmm. Now you aren't giving the mic positions for free but you are charging for them. You already announced that the regular price will be 499 USD. Keep consistent about the things you announce. Adding more data to the library doesn't mean that you can randomly change the pricing whenever you feel the need to do so. I don't know if the additional data will be of any value to me and therefore you aren't making the library look more tempting but you are making me feel that I can't trust what you say. The demo situation is ridiculous and so is the way you inform us about your product. Could you please take your time and do the things right once without hesitating and afterwards correcting your statements.

    So if you are changing the pricing of the strings are you also changing the pricing of the whole orchestral series? Will the woodwinds and brass total up to 396 USD for people who have paid the 599 price for the strings so that the full library will be 995 USD? How can we trust that what you say about this now will remain the same when the woodwinds and brass are actually available?

    You should also point out that the introductory price of 399 USD won't be eligible for the 995 price for the whole library. I still think it's silly that the people trusting your words and buying the product without knowing anything real about it have to pay more than the people waiting for some demos and reviews.
    1. The combination of string libraries for solo, ensemble and chamber costs just under $3000 unless you buy the lite edition. The price comparison is direct and based on published list prices. So there's the 5X.

    2. You are incorrect about the mic positions. The price was originally advertised as $399 intro for Basic Solo Strings, Close and Far Positions. To the Intro Price we've added, at NO CHARGE, the Distant mic'ed strings. The $499 price was originally for the package just described which came to 60GB.

    However, the revised package, at the regular retail price, comes with the Basic Solo Strings, Close, Far, and Distant for a size of 100GB. Including an additional mic position for only $100 is VERY fair.

    3. You said, "You should also point out that the introductory price of 399 USD won't be eligible for the 995 price for the whole library." I've already explained previously that if folks want to purchase the Concert Strings now (before Nov 1) at $499, and the Winds at $499 (around NAMM), then they would get the brass for free. Those who pre-paid for the entire library in advance, and there are several, are receiving far more than what was originally offered.

    What I find missing in your comments, Tony, is that this library is already value priced, and for the articulations you're getting and the completeness, including the muted strings for all mic positions, ensembles AND chamber strings (not available from any other library), the price is a steal.

    I certainly appreciate that you'd like to have more demos up. But as I've explained multiple times, I have a smaller staff to work with, and the efforts are directed at getting the library duplicated and shipping.

    FYI, as it's been reported to me, nearly 7,000 individuals bought Kirk's original Virtuoso Strings. Then there's the quality of his solo strings. Already, two television programs are using Kirk's Concert Strings for the Fall Season. We have a SOLID track record to go on, and it's a great one.

    I appreciate and respect your need to wait for more demos. More will be posted in November. Thank you for your comments.
    Peter L. Alexander
    www.professionalorchestration.com
    www.alexanderpublishing.com
    Learn it right the first time.

  10. #10

    Re: KIRK HUNTER CONCERT STRINGS - GIG FILES LIST

    Quote Originally Posted by peter269
    I've already explained previously that if folks want to purchase the Concert Strings now (before Nov 1) at $499, and the Winds at $499 (around NAMM), then they would get the brass for free. Those who pre-paid for the entire library in advance, and there are several, are receiving far more than what was originally offered.
    Aren't all the people getting the same package? Is there only one Concert Strings library or will the different prices include different amount of samples?

    There seems to be only the 399 USD price available on your web site. How is it possible to pay 499 USD? Will the customer paying 499 USD get something proving that he will get the woodwinds for 499 USD and the brass for free after buying the woodwinds? How much will the complete Concert series be if the customer pays 599 for the strings? 995 USD? 1098 USD? 1597 USD? 1797 USD?

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