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    Question Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    I know there is no BEST PIANO available. The question is: Which is the best STEINWAY out there? To date I realise that there are several options: Galaxy, Old Lady, the black Grand, the Steinway from Milanaudio and the upcoming Steinway from Hans Adamson.

    As I personally own libraries for a Yamaha C7 Grand Piano a Boesendorfer piano and an upright piano I would be interested in adding the warmth of a Steinway Grand piano.

    I tried to listen to the available demos but it is still hard to compare the pianos as they all use different midi files. It would be nice if there would be one song used by all of the sample libraries (similar to the purgatory creek) so that one has a one t one comparison. Has anyone done such a comparison?

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    I received my Old Lady today and I just have to say...FANTASTIC!!!

    If you don't want surround (Galaxy), then this is the way to go.
    Jan Nemecek
    www.jannemecek.net

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan_Nemecek
    I received my Old Lady today and I just have to say...FANTASTIC!!!

    If you don't want surround (Galaxy), then this is the way to go.
    I know. Michiel Post produces high quality libraries. I own the Boesendorfer 290 (great sound). But other mothers have nice daughters too and especially Worra and Hans Adamson usually have excellent libraries. I downloaded the demos but it´s hard to say from one octave.......

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    The Old Lady reached the age of 81!
    Best regards,
    Michiel Post


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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Post


    The Old Lady reached the age of 81!
    It´s never too late. Don´t leave her in a room with a Boesendorfer

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    Baby Boesenstein or Steindorfer...
    Best regards,
    Michiel Post


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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    hahahahaha
    such humour so early in the morning :-))

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    In theory, it WOULD be nice if all used the same midi files. But we still have the BIG problem that levels are quite different from one sampled piano to the next; so at the least you'd want to adjust the velocity for the midi file relative to the specific piano sample.

    No question, all the recent Steinways are, I think, an improvement on the Truan EW Steinway, which I think was the benchmark for a long time, and remains a very good sample. Personally, I'm leaning towards the Milan and the Black Grand, after much intense listening.

    JG
    http://artist.amazon.com/johnlewisgrant

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    hi,

    to compare ?

    Try a real Steinway D several hours (in a music store).

    You should take a look to the upcoming "Black Grand" and the Galaxy.

    If you search a good Bosendorfer, the Emperor from PMI is a good choice.
    (Xavier have this beautifull piano !!!)

    And we are still working with Xavier to improve existing Piano to reproduce the real behaviour of an Piano (Legato - staccato -damper - string resonance...)


    Regards,

    Olivier

    www.audiolivepro.com

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    Re: Current Steinway samples: How to compare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier
    hi,

    to compare ?

    Try a real Steinway D several hours (in a music store).

    You should take a look to the upcoming "Black Grand" and the Galaxy.

    If you search a good Bosendorfer, the Emperor from PMI is a good choice.
    (Xavier have this beautifull piano !!!)

    And we are still working with Xavier to improve existing Piano to reproduce the real behaviour of an Piano (Legato - staccato -damper - string resonance...)


    Regards,

    Olivier

    www.audiolivepro.com
    Hi Olivier,
    first of all I have to say that your patch provided for the Boesendorfer 290 is the only patch I´m using nowadays as it improved the playability of the Boesendorfer by some 30%.

    Listening to a real Steinway is always a good idea (my piano teacher had TWO....isn´t the world an unfair place) but you could end up with buying one and stop going on vacation trips or eating in fancy restaurants

    I´ll definitely have a look at the Black Grand (I already downloaded the gig-files and I´m currently waiting for the Halion program-files).

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