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    There is a moral here somewhere...

    I thought this was interesting:
    http://www.cinemusic.net/blog/troy_statement.html
    James Horner is now doing the music...and has about 2 1/2 months to do it.

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    Wow, what a read. I wonder if there is more to the story than that though? It just seems that the director did such a backflip.

    By the sounds of things Horner only actually has 1 and a half months if the movie is coming out in May.

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    There\'s always more to the story that the composer doesn\'t know. How long did the director get poison poured in his ear before his worst fears were confirmed at the screening? The way it was portrayed was that everything was hunky dorey until the focus group chimed in. I find it hard to believe that the director would completely lose his nerve from what could be a bad audience sampling.

    How was it that Yared let the screening run (with his temp) without being present to manage and react to the reaction? There was definitely a horse hitched to a wagon at the event, and he was not there to pull on the reigns. That was his major mistake. With a seed change in the delivery process of the score, the composer should have been more present at those critical junctures. That\'s just good project management.

    I\'m completely blown away that a body of work of that magnitude was canned in order to re-work a picture. It sounds to me (and to my wife - a screenwriter) that they found a dog of a film at that screening and are blaming the music for it. It will be interesting to see how Troy plays with the new music. Our guess is that it will be a flop, as nothing like this goes down without some larger issues looming.

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    Re: There is a moral here somewhere...

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    I thought this was interesting:
    http://www.cinemusic.net/blog/troy_statement.html
    James Horner is now doing the music...and has about 2 1/2 months to do it.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    why would any director do that? destroy a year long effort....somethings are simply understandable...

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    Re: There is a moral here somewhere...

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    It sounds to me (and to my wife - a screenwriter) that they found a dog of a film at that screening and are blaming the music for it.

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    i feel the same way...

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    Re: There is a moral here somewhere...

    i was just looking at all the credits

    didnt realize that the musical aspects of the score were so spread around

    or are their composers that do it all, orchestrate etc


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    Re: There is a moral here somewhere...

    I may be oversimplifying a bit, but a film composer is essentially payed for his/her ability to write a theme or mood that fits each suitable moment in the film.

    After that, you have a team of people to take the burden off the composer, orchestrators, copyists, music editors, engineers, studio assistants, etc, etc.

    Many composers do in fact orchestrate, for someone like Williams it would be a part of the writing process Im sure.

    I tend to think of a top level composer as a CEO of a musical company; at certain points he has to delegate things out, but he essentially steers the \"musical ship\".

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    Wow .... that\'s too bad, i\'m sure it was a fantastic score!!! Yared is very talented!!

    I can vision it now ........ Horner cutting and pasting himself (again). Should only take him a few weeks to recycle his same ol\' tired themes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Re: There is a moral here somewhere...

    [ QUOTE ]
    I may be oversimplifying a bit, but a film composer is essentially payed for his/her ability to write a theme or mood that fits each suitable moment in the film.

    After that, you have a team of people to take the burden off the composer, orchestrators, copyists, music editors, engineers, studio assistants, etc, etc.

    Many composers do in fact orchestrate, for someone like Williams it would be a part of the writing process Im sure.

    I tend to think of a top level composer as a CEO of a musical company; at certain points he has to delegate things out, but he essentially steers the \"musical ship\".

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Thank you Scott

    its not something i spent to much time thinking about, because i have mainly concentrated on the classics, but it still poses some interesting questions about comparing film music and the classics, for example the orchestrator has to put him or herself in the shoes of the composer, which is very different when the composer is also the orchestror, i guess Ravels orchestration of Mussorgski\'s Pictures at an Exhibition is the best example of this.

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    That is just stupid and unexcusable! All the sneaking around and hiring other composers before they even talked with this guy is just spineless and weird. I\'m surprised they didn\'t they lock him out of his office and change his keys and combination & escort him out of the building? I do hope he got paid for the work.
    I may just stay home when that one comes out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

    Dave

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