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    Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    I need help choosing a good piano.

    I\'m a relative newcomer to Giga, and am using a Steinway piano for Giga that can be downloaded from this siteYes, it\'s free, and no I\'m not the developer)

    http://www.musik.auc.dk/~bovbjerg/piano.html#

    (I\'ve never seen this piano mentioned on this site, and thought I should post the link.) You will want to increase the release times, apply a low pass filter to the upper register, add a little reverb, etc...

    I realize that there are some limitations to this sample (it is not chromatically sampled, it has has no pp layer, nor release layer) On the other hand, its tone is wonderful. I want to purchase a piano that is similar to this one in timbre, but has pp layers, etc. I wish I could afford to buy all the libraries out there and see which comes closest to this, but this is not possible.

    Or this piano not as wonderful as I think, and I just haven\'t heard a really good Giga piano yet? (But it sounds like a Steinway to my poor ears...)

    Or should I write the developer begging for him to sample additional layers?

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Adding to my own message, here:

    On the site, it could be hard to find the Giga version of this 34 meg file.

    Once at the site, click on Steinway in the left hand list of pianos. Scroll to the bottom of the page to find the Giga version. Other versions are soundfonts.

    Don\'t slam me too hard if this piano sounds bad to you.

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Jake,

    I agree wholeheartedly that it\'s tone that you should be listening for, rather than recoding techniques or the number of velocity layers etc.,

    Hopefully, guys that are doing new libraries are able to achieve both a good tone and a good sampling spec at the same time.

    I haven\'t listened to the free gig, but you could get a better idea of how it compares with other offerings by going here:

    http://www.purgatorycreek.com/pianocompare.html

    This site has captures of a large range of sampled pianos, playing the same midi file.
    One noteable exception is Kip\'s Bosendorfer. It would be worth a visit to Bardstown\'s site to make sure you have as many examples covered as possible.

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Thanks, Chadwick. I\'ve been to the comparison page before, and am glad it\'s there. I wish it had a very slow piece as well as the nice piece it has, to give me a better idea of the timbre of the pianos. The mp3 compression seems to hurt the sounds,too.

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Originally posted by Jake Johnson:
    http://www.musik.auc.dk/~bovbjerg/piano.html#

    (I\'ve never seen this piano mentioned on this site, and thought I should post the link.)
    <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hmm... I did... This is also known as http://come.to/bovbjerg
    I think he got also some reviews by the Keys magazine if i recall correctly (in the 90\'s).

    But I don\'t think you can compare any of his sounds to the well known piano samples availible at the moment.

    Good luck with tweakin\'!
    PolarBear

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    I just like the timbre of the Bovberg sample and want to know if there are other multisamples out there that capture a Steinway as well, while also having a release layer and chromatic sampling.

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Hm...Doing a search for Gigapiano on this forum led me to an old post by Sam that suggested this same sample as a good mono piano.

    I haven\'t seen any postings from Sam lately. Are you still out there? Do you know of any of the more extensive piano samples that have a similar timbre to this piano?

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Originally posted by Jake Johnson:
    I just like the timbre of the Bovberg sample and want to know if there are other multisamples out there that capture a Steinway as well, while also having a release layer and chromatic sampling.
    <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I\'m like you, the first thing I look for is timbre. If a sample doesn\'t have good timbre then I don\'t care how good the programming is, I don\'t want it. Of course, if a sample has good timbre and lousy programming, it\'s unusable. :-/

    I found the Post Grandiosa to have the best timbre. It has a sweet warmth, brilliant but not edgy high\'s . The mid\'s are the frequencies that make or break a piano for me, and they come through on the Grandiosa well rounded and brilliant.

    I liked the Malmsja for it\'s warmth, but it sounded like it was run through a low pass filter. It lacks the smooth brilliance of the Grandiosa.

    The only drawback for the Grandiosa is it\'s huge size, about 5 gigabytes. The good thing is that the programming seems to be excellent! I\'ve placed the Grandiosa on my \"samples to buy\" list.

    Here\'s a link for the Grandiosa, it also has demo\'s:
    http://www.postaudiomedia.com/producthtml/grandioso.html

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    Re: Impressions of this piano download for Giga

    Jake: I can\'t recall how, exactly, I assembled this sample, but here\'s my sound derived from various giga sources, for what it\'s worth:

    http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/42/john_lewis_grant.html

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