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Fredrik
11-28-2008, 03:20 AM
The god Poseidon (http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7094794)sent a white bull to Crete by request of King Minos. The Bull was supposed to be sacrificed, but King Minos changed his mind and let it live.

Pasiphae, the king's wife fell in love with the white bull. She visited him at night and they, mated. This resulted in Queen Pasiphae giving birth to a Minotaur. It was supposed to be a secret, but Daedalus, the king's architect, charmed by the beauty of the king's daughter, Phaedra, revealed the secret of the Minotaur.

She got interested and decided to visit the Minotaur one night.
When the giant bull saw Phaedra, he got so excited that he ran through the thick wall of the labyrinth.

Phaedra jumped up on his back and they fled to Atlantis, where they mated and gave birth to a Unicorn.
http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/attachments/14697d1227896410-phaedra-minotaur.jpg
For those who are not too prudish, here (http://www.earlham.edu/~vanbma/20th%20century/images/daytwentyfour04.htm) is Picasso's version of it. (scroll down about 40% of the page.)

video clips here, the music is by me!

clip 1: Fred at Knossos Palace, 2004 (includes a Greek guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93YSr5Bg290)tour)


clip 2: Real artifacts from Knossos Palace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx__h3EDxYo)


clip 3: documentary filmed in the ancient Roman town, Gortyn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng47uBgwIs4). (voice over by my wife, Louisa.)

fastlane
11-28-2008, 10:51 PM
I don't think this will be made into a movie anytime soon :eek:

I think the music was right in line with this quite "interesting" legend.

Great job!


Phil

Fredrik
11-29-2008, 05:10 AM
I don't think this will be made into a movie anytime soon :eek:

I think the music was right in line with this quite "interesting" legend.

Great job!


PhilHi Phil,

This story was inspired by my visit to Crete in 2004 where I saw the Palace of Knossos. (http://www.explorecrete.com/archaeology/knossos.html)

In the original story, the Minotaur is killed by a Greek hero, Theseus.

I didn't want to have any bloodshed in my version of the story, so I decided to let the bull escape with one of the daughters of king Minos.

Thanks for lending an ear!

Fred
http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/attachments/14695d1227860671-labyrinth.jpg

efiebke
11-30-2008, 10:00 PM
This is quite different and quite nice! The music seems to fit the narrative that is spoken throughout the piece. Curious. A couple of questions. Is this a score to a film. If so, can we see the film/video? Although, I must say that it seems fine just as it is (with no film and nothing but the narrative, music and our imaginations to "watch" the story). Also, is the narrative 100% synthesized or did you modulate your voice (or someone's voice)? Either way, what did you do to achieve that sound?

Nice job, and thank you for sharing. :)

Ted

Fredrik
11-30-2008, 11:42 PM
This is quite different and quite nice! The music seems to fit the narrative that is spoken throughout the piece. Curious. A couple of questions. Is this a score to a film. If so, can we see the film/video? Although, I must say that it seems fine just as it is (with no film and nothing but the narrative, music and our imaginations to "watch" the story). Also, is the narrative 100% synthesized or did you modulate your voice (or someone's voice)? Either way, what did you do to achieve that sound?

Nice job, and thank you for sharing. :)

TedHi again, Ted!

Glad you enjoyed my journey, traveling to Crete through my mind, lol!

In my story I decided to not kill the bull. I don't like this odd tradition that they had at that time, or still have! Think of all the bulls that are killed in Spain every year! Unfortunately this is an old tradition that goes back all the way to the older cultures!
So much sacrifice and blood! In India the bulls are sacred!

I'm actually about to edit my videos that I filmed during my trip to Knossos and the old Roman town Gortyn in the southern part of Crete. This island is so fascinating! There are several interesting myths related to this island, which is also supposed to be the place from where European civilization started. The Minoan culture.

Yes! I will soon upload my own movie on youtube called "Zeus and Europa" Another of my storymusic adventures combined with GPO orchestrated epic moments. But with video this time!;)

The voice software I use is called "Coolspeech!" It can be manipulated with pitch and speed features. That's why it sounds so real, lol!:p
One thing that was especially fun was to do the minotaur smashing the labyrinth wall.:n: I mixed 4 separate waves tracks in my virtual studio.

Here clip 1: Fred at Knossos Palace, 2004 (includes a Greek guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93YSr5Bg290)tour)

videos here: (the music is by me. composed 1985.)


clip 2: Real artifacts from Knossos Palace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx__h3EDxYo)


clip 3: documentary filmed in the ancient Roman town, Gortyn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng47uBgwIs4). (voice over by my wife, Louisa.)


Thanks for your inspiration! I prefer alive bulls like Picasso, lol! Fred
http://www.informatika.bf.uni-lj.si/zeus&europa.jpg

Rhap2
12-01-2008, 03:20 PM
Fredrik:

Great story and music to go with it. The computer
narration was a real kick............lol

It's amazing how the process you used could be
adapted to stories for children of all ages. They
would be entranced with your productions.


BRAVO,

Jack

mrkeyboard
12-01-2008, 05:06 PM
It seems like a documentary passage, i enjoyed listening it. It would fit perfectly in a History Channel production. I find the ambientation and style very coherent with the time period: epic, ancient and solemn. Good job!

Victor

Fredrik
12-01-2008, 05:57 PM
Fredrik:

Great story and music to go with it. The computer
narration was a real kick............lol

It's amazing how the process you used could be
adapted to stories for children of all ages. They
would be entranced with your productions.


BRAVO,

JackYou really got a point there, Jack!

I look at the world with a child's eye when I wite my stories!

When I was a kid, Tintin was my hero! Then came Jimi Hendrix when I became a teenager, lol! Fred
http://www.psubs.org/pic/wet/TinTin.jpg

Fredrik
12-02-2008, 02:11 PM
It seems like a documentary passage, i enjoyed listening it. It would fit perfectly in a History Channel production. I find the ambientation and style very coherent with the time period: epic, ancient and solemn. Good job!

VictorHi Victor,

Glad you could feel the epic excitement of the ancient Minoan drama!

The memories of Crete and the story of the Minotaur kept haunting me for years after I had visited the Knossos Palace.
I could never forget the legend of Daydalus' mysterious labyrinth! :n:


Thanks for your inspiration!

Fred

Thierry Lecadieu
12-03-2008, 05:03 AM
Bonjour Frederik,

Très sympa cette production. Il me semble reconnaitre une citation d'un morceau grec antique est-ce le premier Hymne delphique à Apollon?

Hi Frederik,
Very nice work. There seems to me be a quotation of the antique Greek music, is it the first Delphic Hymn to Apollo?

Thierry (la fronde).

Fredrik
12-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Bonjour Frederik,

Très sympa cette production. Il me semble reconnaitre une citation d'un morceau grec antique est-ce le premier Hymne delphique à Apollon?

Hi Frederik,
Very nice work. There seems to me be a quotation of the antique Greek music, is it the first Delphic Hymn to Apollo?

Thierry (la fronde).Oui, Thierry la fronde!

Comme Napoléon, j'ai saissi l'occasion!http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Napoleon_Bonaparte.jpg/180px-Napoleon_Bonaparte.jpg

C´ést une citation du morceau grec antique "le premier Hymne delphique à Apollon!"

Un moment historique, qu´on n´oublie pas!

Frédérique

English:

Yes, Thierry la Fronde!

It is a quotaton from the Greek antique piece, "First delphic hymn for Apollo!"

A historical moment, one doesn't forget! http://genedorr.com/patches/images/Apollo/ApolloBelvedere.jpg Fred

RichR
12-03-2008, 08:43 PM
Well Fred, I must say that's some bull you got there! :)

Very nice presentation on another story that has slipped passed my knowledge base. ;) Your scoring for the idea is superb and the orchestration does sound good.

I'm no fan of the computer generated voice. This would me my only objections to a well done performance but as always, it is a subjective thing.

Thanks for the musical insight into the past!

Fredrik
12-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Well Fred, I must say that's some bull you got there! :)

Very nice presentation on another story that has slipped passed my knowledge base. ;) Your scoring for the idea is superb and the orchestration does sound good.

I'm no fan of the computer generated voice. This would me my only objections to a well done performance but as always, it is a subjective thing.

Thanks for the musical insight into the past!Hi again, Rich!

This production has been one of the most exciting ones so far!

While putting together all the components I went through all my personal memories from Crete.
I'm also glad to have been able to share my private quickly edited videos from Knossos and Gortyn.

For the sake of antique ambience, I inserted 3 short sound clips from the Antique Greek Era. The red line throughout this narration is the text, so the voice part has the leading roll and the music helps to create the right ambience. In the beginning I also added sounds of the Crete Mediterranian ocean that I recorded while I was there. After the narration, the broad epical GPO score takes over to illustrate the birth of the Atlantis unicorn, lol!

The solemn trumpet calls you hear in the beginning of the narration is a reproduction of a authentic Antique trumpet:
(This is the trumpet specifically mentioned in the New Testament Book of Revelation.)

Salpinx or Greek trumpet
http://www.geocities.com/emile_meuffels/history/04metaal/salpinx.jpgThanks for lending an ear! I will soon be back with my new Antique piece - Fred

etLux
12-04-2008, 05:19 PM
Interesting!

This works quite well, accompanied narrative. And
it would probably "play well" (or even better) with
a live (human, that is) narrator.

There may be some real potential in this -- this sort
of thing might be very attractive to orchestas in
popular programs!

Best,



David
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David Sosnowski
www.DavidSosnowski.com

Fredrik
12-04-2008, 06:41 PM
Interesting!

This works quite well, accompanied narrative. And
it would probably "play well" (or even better) with
a live (human, that is) narrator.

There may be some real potential in this -- this sort
of thing might be very attractive to orchestas in
popular programs!

Best,



David
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David Sosnowski
www.DavidSosnowski.com (http://www.DavidSosnowski.com)Yes, David!

I'm preparing myself for the History Channel, lol!

My narrator, I actually digg his voice, I don't agree with you and Rich on that point! I think he sounds cool!

He is also much cheaper :)

Fred