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04-05-2008, 01:41 PM
will it be possible in the future to update from basic version of Steinway piano to higher versions? I hope to have more money in the future
Thanks to all

04-05-2008, 01:51 PM
Yes, we want to do this.

What pricing model would our users propose?

If we just charge the difference, then there may be less incentive to buy the Standard and Professional versions and we would be dealing with many upgrades.

What do you think would be fair?

Gary Garritan

04-05-2008, 02:04 PM
Users should have to play the complete works of Sorabji to go from Basic to Standard, and the studies of Ligeti to go from Standard to Pro - sending you AVIs to prove it was done in real time.

Just kidding. I would go with taking the difference and adding 30% or thereabouts - that way anyone who thinks there's the least chance they will be quickly persuaded to update might just go straight for the next version up to start with.

Nickie Fønshauge
04-05-2008, 04:35 PM
The difference plus 30% makes the upgrade path a bit steep in my opinion. Maybe the difference + 10% - 20%? That would still make the more expensive versions interesting for those who can afford them, while at the same time leaving the less fortunate with a decent upgrade path.

Or the difference + 10% - 20% of the price of the-upgrade-to-version. That would make a one-step upgrade (from basic to pro) cheaper than a two-step upgrade (basic-standard-pro), thus maybe keeping the number of upgrades down.

04-05-2008, 05:43 PM
I second the idea about 10-20% overhead on the upgrades. 30% seems to be bit too much, yet no overhead would - as Gary predicts - cause the avalanche of upgrades.

However, the upgrade from downloadable basic version to anything higher could be with less overhead, as download needs no (am I wrong?) processing of Garritan people whatsoever. I assume it's completely automated, or will be - if is not yet available. If that's the fact, for Gary the upgrade would be the same effort as first buy then.

p.s. the samples of Steinway just blew me away. Especially scherzo, where the "meat" in bass notes is easily heard, and is not mudded like in other ones.

Best regards!

04-05-2008, 08:18 PM
20% seems reasonable to me.

04-06-2008, 01:05 PM
20% seems reasonable to me.

So 20% difference would be...

Basic to Standard would be ($199 - $99 x 1.2 [or add 20%]) = $120.

Standard to Pro ($399 - $199 x 1.2) = $240

Basic to Pro ($399 - $99 x 1.2) = $360.

Sound right?


Nickie Fønshauge
04-06-2008, 01:52 PM
Sounds OK.

04-06-2008, 09:41 PM
It Sounds GREAT (according to the demos!)

Oh - the numbers? yeah they sound right too.

04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
For the numerically challenged, that means that

If you buy basic then pro you pay a total of $459.
If you buy standard then pro you pay a total of $439
If you buy basic then standard you pay $219
If you buy basic then standard then pro you pay $459seems reasonable

04-07-2008, 12:20 PM
What about a flat $20 upgrade tax. By %, upgrading from Basic to Pro is the same as Basic to Standard to Pro. A flat upgrade amount would encourage a jump to Pro, rather than stepping up to each version.

Basic to Standard is $120 ($220 total)
Basic to Pro is $320 ($420 total)
Standard to Pro is $220 ($420 total)
Basic to Standard to Pro is $340 ($120 + $220 upgrades and $440 total)