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Tom Wrench
04-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Hi there,

Just wondering if you guys could help me with finding some cheap / free choir/vocal samples. I already have the Project Sam Brass/Percussion libraries as well as the K2 inbuilt library. I just need these choirs to complement what I already have.

Do you guys know of any free / cheapish choir/vocal samples that are available?

Cheers,
Tom

J. Whaley
04-20-2007, 11:35 PM
nope - you MIGHT be able to find the Peter Sizlecheck (sp?) choirs cheap somewhere, but it's doubtful.


EW choirs are good but cumbersome - I still use Symphony of Voices ALL the time for tons of stuff. It's certainly worth the $$ and has paid for itself many times.

J-

drjohnny79
04-21-2007, 12:19 PM
I´m in the same situation as you are, Tom. I plan maybe buying Symphony of Voices, which is known for its qualities. Maybe Garritan has something new (maybe not cheap?) up in his sleeves. If you have reason, there is a cheap miroslav choir refill, but you cant load it in K2 unfortunately, since it´s locked.

There are some free soundfonts, not as good quality, but you can check this out:

(Papelmedia ahh choir)

http://www.papelmedia.de/english/download2.htm

maybe find something useful here (sf2midi)

www.sf2midi.com (http://www.sf2midi.com)

Have a nice day/evening/nite/morning,
/Johnny

cmdratz
04-21-2007, 03:26 PM
Tom,
Here is a better sounding (previous and larger) version of the Papelmedia Choir soundfont, which was freely released a while ago; you will have to register to get the file (free).
http://www.sf2midi.com/index.php?page=sdet&id=5963
Additionally there is a female soloist soundfont on the Papelmedia demo page that is about the best free one you will find.
http://www.papelmedia.de/sf2/sf2/Papelmedia_Irina_Brochin.sf2

James W.G. Smith
04-21-2007, 05:28 PM
Tom,
Here is a better sounding (previous and larger) version of the Papelmedia Choir soundfont, which was freely released a while ago; you will have to register to get the file (free).
http://www.sf2midi.com/index.php?page=sdet&id=5963


Yep, that is the one that I used for years when I was starting out. Really one of the best free sounds you can find.

On a side note, Papelmedia did NOT make this. I'm not really sure who did, but I am 99% sure it wasn't them considering they only resell stuff that was posted for free. Don't buy anything from them.

dahnielson
04-22-2007, 04:40 PM
I haven't been able to download the soundfont and check it out yet (the download just stalls for me). But I have too been looking for some affordable choir library to be used as complement to the orchestra. This has got me playing around with the idea of doing a sample project on my own to be released freely (or for a small fee to finance the endevour). With so many other nice "small" libraries around this clearly is a niche that need to be filled.

Obviously a choir library might not be the best as first project (although I have previously done some hardware sampling/programing and production of speech synthesis). But just for the fun of it, what would such a library contain?

As constrains, I'm thinking a small to medium sized (whatever that is nowadays) multi format library that primarily can be distributed as downloads containing dynamic but to the point samples, usable as compliment to orchestral libraries.

Haven't looked into what would be required from a "entry level" choir lib, but I guess Aah-, Ooh- and Mmm-samples in different dynamics for soprano, alto, tenor and bass would cover the basic. To make it sound slightly less synthesized I guess note transition samples would be nice since phrases are sung "legato" (of course here you can go nuts with the number of samples). Crescendos and diminuendos would be nice too, but I guess that will probably stretch the required sessions a bit to far for a small library.

Any ideas?

(Hmm... I'm going to listen to The Planets tonight.)

Tom Wrench
04-22-2007, 05:22 PM
Yes, the soundfont download also stalls for me. Any other places where it may be found?

Cheers,
Tom

cmdratz
04-22-2007, 06:21 PM
Yep, that is the one that I used for years when I was starting out. Really one of the best free sounds you can find.

On a side note, Papelmedia did NOT make this. I'm not really sure who did, but I am 99% sure it wasn't them considering they only resell stuff that was posted for free. Don't buy anything from them.
J. W. G. S.,
This choir was one of the only things S. T. P. recorded himself. His girlfriend and a tenor friend are in the samples too. There was even a picture of him with the choir that sang the samples. You are right about the other instruments, though.

[Edit: For people who aren't able to download the file, make sure that 1) you have registered (free), 2) you only use your browser and not a download manager to get the file by clicking on the link when logged in (not saving it to file, just clicking on the link). The download works for me at about .3MBPS.]
[Edit 2:
Thanks for the link Chris!You're welcome.]
[Edits 3 & 4:
If anyone can sucessfully download this .sf2 please let's see if we can find a way to put it at yousendit.com or somewhere[....] Sure. http://savefile.com/projects/808486296. I trimmed the release time(s) from almost one and a half seconds to about a quarter second, and I cut out the reverb sends so that the choir is more usable; add reverb to your track(s) for situations when you want it back.]

Steve_Karl
04-22-2007, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the link Chris!

If anyone can sucessfully download this .sf2 please let's see if we can find a way to put it at yousendit.com or somewhere so others can get it,

Edit: or possibly just yousendit to me?

This downwload has failed for me repeatedly on fast DSL.

Edit:
Thanks for the tips Chris. That's exactly how I'm doing it but it always stops at about 13 or 14 %.



Thanks

david robinson
04-23-2007, 03:27 AM
hi, the papel choir is good, better than some of the EW libs that are overrated.
i've split it into three quite useful sections, and at least it's in tune.

the i. brochin soprano samples are also use-able.
she's a little flat on some samples, but she's probably a good girlfriend.
best, david r.

jrjnsn
04-27-2007, 09:52 PM
Thanks Chris, for the yousendit link. Got it.

dahnielson
04-28-2007, 12:23 PM
Unfortunately I didn't managed to download the file from YouSendIt in time. If possible, please try to upload it to rapidshare.com or yourfilehost.com. It would then be possible for me to put it on a fast server without limitation for the benefit of all.

Tom Wrench
05-17-2007, 04:33 PM
Any update on this? It would be great to be able to download this choir!

Cheers,
Tom

janila
05-17-2007, 06:58 PM
The SF2MIDI site works but the download takes ages to start. If you import to Kontakt you'll have to fix a couple of notes which are a half step off. Ask if you run into it and don't know what to do.

Nickie Fønshauge
05-18-2007, 03:35 AM
I downloaded both files directly from Papelmedia (http://www.papelmedia.de/english/download2.htm) using GetRight. No problems.

dahnielson
05-18-2007, 08:09 AM
I've put up a mirror of Chris' edit of the choir SoundFont here:

Ahh-Choir 1.3 Lesser Release SoundFont (http://files.dahnielson.com/samples/free/ahh-choir-sf2.rar)

DKeenum
05-19-2007, 08:28 AM
I couldn't get the mirror to work, so I used savefile.

dahnielson
05-19-2007, 09:00 AM
I couldn't get the mirror to work, so I used savefile.
The mirror is working, just right click on the link and choose "Save Link As..." or similar option.

diligamus
07-04-2007, 09:28 AM
I've put up a mirror of Chris' edit of the choir soundfont here

Thanks, dahnielson. I just downloaded it and got it working with the rgc:audio sfz Soundfont player. So now I have to figure out how to get a good sound out of it. I understand that in theory at least the sfz will respond to almost every MIDI CC#.

cmdratz
07-04-2007, 01:06 PM
CC7 for volume and whatever reverb setup sounds good to you should do most of the work. Sometimes equalization can help as well.

diligamus
07-04-2007, 01:33 PM
Do you know if the Papelmedia Soundfont responds to CC# 73 (attack)?

marce
07-04-2007, 01:39 PM
Do you know if the Papelmedia Soundfont responds to CC# 73 (attack)?

Soundfonts dont respond to any CC. Who respond or not to CC's are the sampler that you use to load the SF2. If you are using SFZ, yes, it respond to CC73. Other sampler, you need to investigate in their documentation.