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Markleford
11-27-2004, 06:00 PM
One of the (many, many) cool things about Garritan Orchestral Strings is MaestroTools by Jeff Hurchalla of Marblesound. It's a MIDI performance manipulator that allows the composer to add variety to manually played parts so that sampled instruments maintain a realistic variance in sound aspects.

Two *unfortunate* aspects of MaestroTools, though, are (#1) the Maple MIDI loopback driver app is required to be running, and (#2) any changes it makes to your MIDI performace are "frozen" the way they're originally received. While these are certainly no great impediment to their usefulness, I personally would rather (#1) get the same functionality as an MFX plugin within SONAR (or other MFX-capable host), and (#2) be able to view and edit my original performance before the effect of the MIDI manipulation is made permanent.

So I'm making this baby-step into reproducing the functionality of MaestroTools in MFX form.

TenCrazy.com MFX AutoAlternator allows you to do automatic bow-direction alternations in the ALT patches of Garritan Orchestral Strings. Of course, it can also be applied to other systems: for example, you can alternate left and right-hand hits on the Timpani patch in Garritan Personal Orchestra. Anything with two sets of alternate samples mapped across the keyboard is game.

But wait: there's more! I've added a feature that will allow you to alternate sound instances across two separate MIDI channels. As such, you can create hand-tweaked sample sets by loading in two of the same patch and altering the pitch and timbre parameters of only one of them.

Get your free copy at:

http://www.tencrazy.com/

Enjoy. Create.
- m

Houston Haynes
11-27-2004, 06:36 PM
WOW! Cool! I can't wait! :eek:

Sepheritoh
11-28-2004, 01:23 PM
Thank you thank you thank you.

KevinKauai
11-28-2004, 03:30 PM
Sounds fascinating, but I must admit my total lack of comprehension and ingnorance about WHAT an "MFX" is.

Will this work with Cubase SX2, for instance? Does it attach itself to the Kontakt player with GPO or have I completely missed the point?

Inquiring minds want to know!

LATE UPDATE: I went searching the 'net for "MFX" and "MFX Plugin" and finally found a "rumor" that there is, indeed, some sort of "MFX Wrapper" that lets these be used in Cubase SX. However, all attempts at finding the ACTUAL thing to download failed, including referencing the Steinberg FTP site itself. (I saw other posts that the ftp site had been down.)

Hints, anyone?

Thanks ... KevinKauai :)

Hardy Heern
11-28-2004, 03:41 PM
Thanks again Markleford for your brilliant skill and generosity.

Respect

Frank

Markleford
11-28-2004, 06:03 PM
LATE UPDATE: I went searching the 'net for "MFX" and "MFX Plugin" and finally found a "rumor" that there is, indeed, some sort of "MFX Wrapper" that lets these be used in Cubase SX. To my (limited, SONAR-user's) understanding, there is indeed an MFX wrapper that is an official Steinberg free release. Apart from that, I'm clueless as to where to find it and how to make it work, as I'm not a Cubase SX/SL user.

I have received reports that my MFX plugs have worked in that environment, at least. I imagine other users will pipe up if they know...

And thanks to the others for the thanks!

- m

Ned Bouhalassa
11-28-2004, 07:19 PM
There's no small chance of getting ported onto Mac, right? :(

Markleford
11-28-2004, 07:40 PM
There's no small chance of getting ported onto Mac, right? :(Not by me, at least: all I have is a PC. I'd be happy to hand over my source to anyone who could do the port to some other Mac MIDI plugin standard, though, but I'm honestly not sure if one exists. So far as I know, AudioUnits doesn't cover MIDI-only manipulation?

- m

UNIX_GURU
11-29-2004, 01:29 AM
One way to do it would be to build an AU instrument that is capable of hosting another AU instrument inside of it, though this would not be as good as a AU MIDI filter. I would take a crack at it though right now I am very busy with my "real job".

dewdman42
11-29-2004, 05:16 PM
1 - MFX is not on mac. Period.

2 - MFX plugins will SOMETIMES work on Cubase with the wrapper. But some plugins have problems FYI. Trial and error. One of the main reasons I got Sonar instead of Cubase was because of MFX and CAL. Try it on Cubase and let us know.

3 - For the Mac, there are other possibilities. AU does NOT have a great midi out interface. Core-audio needs to be improved in this regard. However, with OSX, you can easily have a program that functions similarly to mapletools. OSX is really good about allowing practically unlimited virtual midi ports.. So its easy to create a program that functions as a a virtual midi in/out port and then do midi plugin types of things there. There is a program already out called MidiPipe for OSX that does a lot of stuff..you might be able to already do what you want with that.

Ned Bouhalassa
11-29-2004, 05:48 PM
Thanks for the tip about Midipipe, DM. I will try it later tonight.

jbareham
11-29-2004, 05:48 PM
MFX Wrapper for PC Cubase SX is here

ftp://ftp.pinnaclesys.com/Steinberg/download/Downloads_PC/Cubase_SX/MFX_Wrapper/

Regards
Jason

KevinKauai
11-29-2004, 10:13 PM
Thanks, Ned. I'm pretty sure I went through all the usual places to find this download and wasn't able it.


MFX plugins will SOMETIMES work on Cubase with the wrapper. But some plugins have problems FYI. Trial and error.Now, that pause for concern! I guess I'll see if this new thing works once I get my GPO Contest things submittted.

Thanks, all! KevinKauai

Ned Bouhalassa
11-29-2004, 10:15 PM
Kevin,

Jason is the one to thank, not me! :D

wes37
11-29-2004, 10:52 PM
Am I the only stupid one here? Where do I put the .dll in Sonar? In other words, once I download it, how do I use it?

Markleford
11-30-2004, 12:13 AM
Am I the only stupid one here? Where do I put the .dll in Sonar? In other words, once I download it, how do I use it?You can put it just about anywhere, but you then have to get its information in the registry: read the accompanying text file in the zip archive to find out various ways of accomplishing this.

- m

Houston Haynes
11-30-2004, 01:02 AM
Steinberg has their own MIDI plug-in protocol - a subset of the VST protocol, I believe. You can get more info on it HERE (http://www.steinberg.net/DocSupportDisplay_sb.asp?templ=&doclink=/webvideo/steinberg/support/doc/VST%20Module%20Architecture%20SDK_1.htm&Langue_ID=&Product_ID=).

wes37
11-30-2004, 07:26 PM
You can put it just about anywhere, but you then have to get its information in the registry: read the accompanying text file in the zip archive to find out various ways of accomplishing this.

- mThank you. I guess I should be more specific...I don't understand what "Copy TcMfxAutoAlternatorReg.bat to the directory with the .dll, and double-click to run the .bat file" means and when I downloaded the "Windows Shell Extensions", right-clicking on them does not offer an "Install" option, so I don't get how to make this work.

Sorry, computers are not my forte.

tgfoo
11-30-2004, 11:03 PM
Hmmm, this looks quite useful.... Now if only I really new how to use MFXs.... Guess there is not better time to learn than now. Thanks! :D

Markleford
12-01-2004, 10:42 AM
Okay, here's the easiest way to install it (on Windows 2000 and XP, and hopefully Win9x):

* Download the AutoAlternator the .zip file from my site.

* Use your unzip program of choice to empty ALL its contents to a directory where it will permanently live. If you are under WinXP then you should just have to double-click the .zip file within the Windows Explorer (aka "File Manager") program.

* Double-click on TcMfxAutoAlternatorReg.bat to install

That is all. If this does not work, mention the results and we'll figure it out.

- m

Garritan
12-20-2004, 01:34 AM
Markleford,

This is fantastic. There have been so many requests among Cubase and Nuendo users for an MFX plugin that would do auto-alternation.

The alternating instances across two separate MIDI channels is brilliant. This would also benefit GPO users as well. I wonder how that would work with different solo instruments. Time to experiment.

Thank you again!

Gary Garritan

Markleford
12-20-2004, 10:32 AM
My pleasure!

- m

Hardy Heern
12-20-2004, 02:36 PM
What a marvellous and brilliant idea Mark, I wanted something like the random MIDI switch years ago (I know it's alternate but hey that's good enough to add even more realism)!! It's so generous of you to share all this terrific stuff that you do.:)

Respect

Frank

Christopher Duncan
12-21-2004, 09:24 AM
Mark,

A lot of us know up close and personal how much time and effort is involved in writing any piece of software. I think what you're doing with all the work you share is just huge. I'm sure Good Things will seek you out for your benevolence and generosity...

Markleford
12-21-2004, 10:36 AM
[...] Good Things will seek you out for your benevolence and generosity...They have indeed... under the name "Gary Garritan"! :D

- m