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tgfoo
10-25-2005, 07:44 PM
They cancelled all of the tour dates except for the ones in Seattle and Vancouver... I had tickets to the D.C. show. Bummer. :(

Joseph Burrell
10-25-2005, 08:03 PM
Don't feel bad. I bought my tickets, drove all the way to Atlanta for the show, and realized as we walked up to the venue, that the place was deserted sans me and my friend.

What a piss orf. What made me mad was that there was no advance notice that the show had been cancelled. None at all.

Garritan
10-25-2005, 08:30 PM
They cancelled all of the tour dates except for the ones in Seattle and Vancouver... I had tickets to the D.C. show. Bummer. :(Seattle and Vancouver? When??

Delusion
10-25-2005, 10:16 PM
That's too bad about the cancellations!

I was lucky enough to walk from my place to the Hollywood Bowl and watch the LA Phil Video Games Live show.

If you can, you should go...it was amazing! It was the only time I've ever saw an electronic drum kit play with an orchestra!!!!

Symbiotic
10-25-2005, 11:15 PM
Gary - the Seattle show is this weekend! You have to go! I think Tim Larkin will be there, as well as Martin O'Donnell, Tommy T., Jack Wall, Gerard Morino and a few others!

Rogles
10-26-2005, 10:22 AM
So what happened? Was hardly anyone going to the shows? Poor ticket sales? Man, that's a bummer.

Hmmm... I remember rumors they were planning on releasing a CD. I hope that hasn't been scrapped too.

Symbiotic
10-26-2005, 10:39 AM
I suspect poor ticket sales. It was an ambitious effort, and I think there is a market for it. But I think more publicity is needed, and a lot more direct support from the industry itself. Hopefully they'll be able to get a smaller tour off the ground in 2006. Meanwhile, I consider myself very fortunate that I get to see it this weekend. I've been looking forward to it for months.

His Frogness
10-26-2005, 11:14 AM
Well, I think there's a lot of potential for something like VGL. It sucks that all the people that this meant a lot to are getting the shaft, but it's something that hasn't really been done yet and so there's probably a lot to learn about successfully promoting and marketing such an event.

I'm sure, at some point, VGL will play more cities.

Felix
10-31-2005, 10:49 PM
I suspect they did not have a good business plan. It was very ambitious (travelling with an orchestra is not cheap), the advertising was almost non- existent.
Yes there is a market for it but obviously potential concert goers were not willing to pay $60 to see it.

Symbiotic
11-01-2005, 12:07 AM
Somehow I think it had little to do with whether or not they had a sound business plan. Tallarico and Wall are two of the industry's top composers - and you don't get to that place without knowing business. Perhaps they were too ambitious and could have scaled back to fewer cities, but I can speak from experience - the show was worth the $50 I paid for my ticket. It was a concert experience unlike any other I've had, and I'd just as soon give it to my peers as some multi-platinum selling hit-of-the-minute pop band.

From the little bit I garnered from conversation with them, and the posts they've made on the site, average ticket sales and a near total lack of support from the game and symphony industries made it very difficult for them to get any kind of support. Its tough to mount any kind of national tour without some serious financial backing, and despite a sellout of over 10k people at the Hollywood Bowl and what appeared to be a capacity crowd in Seattle, the 'people in power' still didn't see it as a viable show.

Hopefully positive reviews and ticket sales for Seattle and Vancouver will help them gain some financial traction so they can pick up where they left off sometime next year.

Sean Beeson
11-01-2005, 08:48 AM
There could have been better marketing in some of the other cities. I didn't even know or hear about this concert until it was almost too late. It was
like you have to be following their website to know. I bought a ticket though for the show in Columbus and waas stoked to go. :( Maybe next year!

Felix
11-01-2005, 09:57 AM
Yes Tommy is a business man more than anything so it is surprising indeed that he would not go about this better. But he entered a whole different business and he was not selling his name or just putting his name on a game score this time like he's used to.

I saw the show in Vancouver and I admire the effort. Aside from questionable selection of games and music, the obvious self-promoting ones (as Advent Rising ) there were good moments.

For me I would have preferred to hear more of a variety of moods and see actual gameplay footage of the recent games as opposed to the in-game movies or trailers.

To see the evolution of certain games like Sonic and Castlevania was cool but the music accompanying it was pretty bad no matter how you slice it. I was there to hear music first though. A lot of the music selection was too similar and almost interchangable. God of War, Advent Rising, WOW, a few others I can't recall (there was no program handed out!) sounded all the same i.e clones of LOTR. The Mario segment was not bad but when you've heard John Williams and the Boston Pops doing game music versions of some those classics everything else is pretty pale in comparison.

I'm sure there was some major hoops to go through to obtain the legal rights to the footage and music but there was some major award winning composers and scores missing such as Jeremy Soule, Bill Brown, Clint Bajakian, Chance Thomas, Jesper Kyd, Inon Zur to name a few.

The orchestra was good and the sync to the image was spot on and impressive but I did not like the use of back tracks and I would have prefer to hear a real full orchestra. I understand that for budget reasons they could not afford to travel with a 100 piece orchestra. But micing an orchestra and sending it through the PA just kills its sound, it is supposed to be acoustic!

The first half had mostly orchestrated old game music and used little back tracks and it sounded pretty thin and not very balanced because there weren't enough strings. The second half sounded bigger because they played along what seemed to be the original recording of many of those game movies.
My personal favorite was the Tron segment because the game and the music were so original. BTW does anyone know if the music for Tron the VG came from the music Wendy Carlos did for the movie?

Symbiotic
11-01-2005, 10:35 AM
You're right about obtaining performance rights for a lot of those folks. I know Seattle fans were disappointed in the lack of Uematsu and FF representation. Apparently Square allowed them to perform it in Hollywood, but revoked the rights for the tour - which explains why it was in the program, but not performed. :(

Symbiotic
11-02-2005, 12:45 PM
My subjective review posted here:

http://www.createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=978&Itemid=44

IOComposer
11-02-2005, 12:56 PM
Man, that's a bummer. I'm also very sad that I missed the LA show. I had an unmoveable deadline and had to forego. I don't see the cancellations as a blow to games at all. More like what was done was a great evolution for the greater good of the art form. That the midwest didn't get in line, well that's pretty much a compliment...they did relect Bush, after all ;)

Maybe the next effort will be even better.
Cheers!
-Jamey

MDesigner
11-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Ahem. Illinois is a blue state. Most of us voted against Bush.. at least those of us near Chicago. Dunno about the people downstate. At least we have a Democratic governor, unlike California :) (just giving you a hard time, Jamey) ;)

I digress. It sucks to hear the VGL was cancelled, even though I wouldn't have been able to make it (previous plans).

Ian Dorsch
11-03-2005, 10:16 AM
At least we have a Democratic governor, unlike California :)

Yeah, bring back Gray Davis!!! :D