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03-10-2003, 08:53 AM
Ciao... to you all!
...please, Iíve imported (with the EXS24 option) all my GOS CD on my Mac...
I know already that Iíll have a bit of trouble images/icons/blush.gif (name lenght, control settings not imported completely and so on...) but, for the moment, Iíd like to ask just a simple, I think and hope, question about how storing the samples on my HD... (forgive my english!)
Opening an instrument, logic ask to me to choose among two (or more) same sample (but in different folders)... so, Iím wondering if I can put all the celloí samples, all the violiní samples etc... just in one \"dedicated\" folder (so all the ďdoublesĒ will be erased and Iíll have more free space on my HD... and no more to choose among two or three same samples!). Iím very ďskill-tech-lessĒ ... images/icons/frown.gif so Iím not sure to do the right thing... thanks for replay!
Greetings from Rome... and, Gary... you and your staff are great!!! images/icons/smile.gif

Tom Hopkins
03-10-2003, 03:27 PM

The answer is most likely “yes” so long as the samples in the other folders are actually duplicates. Once you have consolidated your samples into common folders be sure to delete the duplicates in other locations. You may want to do some experimenting to test this just to be sure. The worst that could happen is you would need to re-convert some instruments.


03-11-2003, 06:20 AM
Thank you, Tom...
...I think I\'ll disturb you again... if you don\'t mind... images/icons/rolleyes.gif
for the moment, greetings from Italy...

03-11-2003, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by rino:
Ciao... to you all!
...please, Iíve imported (with the EXS24 option) all my GOS CD on my Mac...
I know already that Iíll have a bit of trouble images/icons/blush.gif (name lenght, <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">If you\'re on OS 9 then get the Joliet file extension. That will solve all the naming problems. It doesn\'t allow really long names but they will be displayed more correctly. So instead of CEllRIC.GIG or whatever, you get Cellos SusRich.gig.

03-11-2003, 09:57 AM
Thanks Hasen for your suggestion, but...
I\'ve tried, just now, Joliet... and the problem is, I know it, in the EXS24 himself... It seems not allows to use name longer then 31 letters... Here, an example:
after the import, I\'ve got instruments (xxxx.exs) like these:
Cellos Martele UpDn ALT.exs
Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR.exs...
where the first is right,
but the second is a \"strange mix\" of:
Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR1.exs
Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR2.exs...
...so Hasen, and Tom if you are reading, I can\'t use \"Variability Instruments\" \'cause of the long name... images/icons/confused.gif
I\'m still \"study-reading\" the manual... but I\'m not sure if, as I don\'t use Giga Sampler, I can use Var Instr in EXS24 just the same (supposing that I can import the \"instrument long name\"!) without re-programing all the parameters in my EXS24... images/icons/confused.gif images/icons/confused.gif ...so if there is not another way to resolve the issue, I\'ll use just the instrument that I can import... images/icons/smile.gif GOS is so great, that I\'ll be able to do good music just the same!!!
...I beg your pardon if my post is a bit confused, but I\'m really sweating trying to explain myself in english images/icons/frown.gif
Thanks again for your help!
rino images/icons/smile.gif

03-11-2003, 11:24 AM
Why can\'t you use them if the filename\'s wrong? Surely they will work regardless of what they are called, will they not?

The only other option I can think of is to use OS X \'cos that supports long file names.

03-11-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by rino:

I hear you... shouting: \"Buy a GigaSampler!!!\" ...I won\'t! I love Macintosh tooooo much... can betray it! images/icons/grin.gif
Thanks... <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I would never say that! EXS24 is much better than Gigasampler. I love Macs too and would never touch a pc. Unfortunately I can\'t help you with your problem as I don\'t actually use EXS24. Hopefully Tom can answer your question.

03-12-2003, 12:21 AM
...no way! Also in OS X the exs24 reads max 31 characters... but... please, follow me...

I\'ve just imported the two programs \"Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR 1\" and \"Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR 2\" (shortering the name) with CDXtract...
Well! These, ahead, are the differences among this two last program and the \"Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR\" I was talking in the precedent post (the one I\'ve defined a \"strange mix\"...):

in the xxxVAR 1.exs and xxxVAR 2.exs, into the edit window of EXS24, I\'ve got 3 groups each one (controlled by three different range of CC# 1) while in the xxxVAR.exs I\'ve got 8(!!!) groups
(controlled by eight different range of modWheel/CC#1)... in the GOS manual, if I\'ve well understood, I see seven modWheel positions... (it has to be seven groups...?) images/icons/confused.gif

Now, which one of this three \"xxx.exs\" I\'ve got to \"trust\" and \"tamper with\"? ...
images/icons/frown.gif I hear you... shouting: \"Buy a GigaSampler!!!\" ...I won\'t! I love Macintosh tooooo much... can betray it! images/icons/grin.gif

03-12-2003, 05:51 AM
Hasen, I was kidding about the GS... Happy to know you love Mac too...
Thanks, anyway, for your answers... I hope Tom images/icons/tongue.gif can give me some more advices...
For example... How many layers I\'ve got to have... better... How many layers, really, there are in the giga Cellos Martele UpDn ALT VAR 1 and 2?
...knowing that, maybe I can understand how my EXS24 and CDXtract acting during the translation...
Thank you for your patience... and... Ciao Hasen...

Tom Hopkins
03-12-2003, 01:33 PM

I run an all-PC studio so I can’t help out on the Mac naming problem but here is the information on the VAR instruments:

1. The VAR instruments use 8 layers switched from the mod wheel (cc#1) – no crossfades are used. The first layer is neutral – it is the default. Layers 2 through 6 use detuning: -6 cents, +6 cents, -12 cents, +12 cents, -3 cents. Note that the detuning is added to any tuning values already existing in the samples. Layers 7 and 8 use transposition primarily from one half step above and one half step below to give variation in character – the amount of variation depending upon whether the transposition is applied to a sample recorded on the same string or a different string.

2. VAR instruments use GPC-1 (cc#16) to control variability in attack envelope speed.

3. They use GPC-7 (cc#82) to control variability in “rosin on the bow” brightness.


03-13-2003, 06:25 AM
Thanks very much Tom... your answer is just what I was looking for...
( images/icons/shocked.gif ...mmm... so CDXtract seems to loose 5 layers in the translation...?!?! images/icons/confused.gif )
...well, I\'ve got something to work on now,
thank you again for the moment and best regards,