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Michiel Post
11-22-2002, 10:05 AM
We did this GOS demo for one of our clients;
BACH AIR (\"http://stkitts.globat.com/~postpiano.com/demo/AIR%20new.mp3\")
We need feedback on the balance and instruments used.
Michiel Post

11-22-2002, 02:05 PM
This is very nice. My suggestion is 1) I think it is a bit too dry and 2)you might try a bit of EQ as suggested in the link below. I think these two things would sweeten the sound a bit. Also, check it against a reference live recording: that would tell you a lot.

http://www.sierra-trails.com/radarmusiclinks/soitgos.htm (\"http://www.sierra-trails.com/radarmusiclinks/soitgos.htm\")

Michiel Post
11-22-2002, 04:09 PM
Very usefill tips on you website.
Think I\'ll start investigating the additional techniques in detail to get better results.


11-23-2002, 04:54 AM

I\'m definitely no expert by FAR.. but I will tell you this: the mod wheel is your friend images/icons/smile.gif (or, it\'s all about the EXP samples)

(EDIT: I had a few more listens.. it sounds like you ARE using the EXP samples..but maybe the overall volume of the parts is too loud, and the EXP samples don\'t start out quietly enough. Also, check the instrument that\'s playing the bass part.. it sounds too high & dry. I use the Bass Pizzicato in my mockup below)

It took me a while to get used to this library.. now I almost ALWAYS use the EXP samples.. they\'re awesome. The level of expressiveness you can get just never ceases to amaze me.. it\'s the real key to making pieces sound realistic.

I grabbed \"Bach Air\" from the Seven soundtrack and threw this together by ear:

http://www.samhulick.com/Bach_Air.mp3 (\"http://www.samhulick.com/Bach_Air.mp3\")

Forgive the shortness of it, I didn\'t have the score, and it\'s 2:45am images/icons/smile.gif But the expressiveness is what\'s going to make the piece convincing to the ear and make the listener think, if only for a moment, that it\'s a real orchestra.

Good luck.. just practice and get used to the library, it takes some time.

PS: I didn\'t use any of the EQ techniques mentioned above

EDIT: Another tip.. use the \"WARM\" samples, and adjust the GPC7 to between 80-95 depending on what sounds good to you.

11-24-2002, 04:18 PM
Its too fast... make it slower and it will be allright images/icons/wink.gif


11-25-2002, 02:47 PM
Wasn\'t the bass part pizzicato? Can\'t find it on my CDs... images/icons/rolleyes.gif


11-25-2002, 08:46 PM
I thought it was pizz. too... then I listened to the version on the \"Seven\" soundtrack closely (read: with headphones) and heard that it was actually just um.. I dunno what it\'s called images/icons/smile.gif martele? spiccato? Actually my mockup is missing the cellos doubling the basses. oh well

11-25-2002, 08:50 PM
I think they modified for the Seven soundtrack. I also remember they version on the Seven soundtrack is played by a german orchestra. If I recall correctly it was the Stuttgarter Kammerorchester. (Don\'t found it yet, see the label, Sam)

Perhaps the celli marcato, and the basses pizz? What about the viola? I\'m pretty sure the bass is pizz...


11-25-2002, 09:05 PM
I think you\'re right actually.. bass pizz with celli marcato over it.

Michiel Post
11-26-2002, 06:43 AM
We uploaded the latest version under the original link above.
Tempo is now much better, violoncello is now marcato and we added a lot of Exp. Still have to work on thrill\'s etc.